MasterV8

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Lotus elise's are common as muck here! not bad little cars & they aren't that cheap, but as my neighbour can contest they don't seem to handle hard launches too well, which seems to be the only way to get the best times, he went through 3 clutches in less than a year of owning it, before trading to a BMW 330ci.
And even though they are light i think driver weight makes a difference, they had one on Top gear not the exige Clarkson was driving it round a track, then they had a test driver from lotus get in with him, 2big guys they put a timer in the bottom corner also showing the speedo & it took almost 7secs for the car to reach about 60

2000 SILVERADO

They are light cars for sure, good kills jebazws6.

Louie83

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I've only seen one on the road.

They are sexy, wish my poor college *** could afford one.

z_speedfreak

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grrr i hear this **** too much.. 'no match for an LS1 but faster than an LT1'. well in this case i know its bullshit, i think its close enough that it all comes down to driver skill but ? idk i had no problem killing the elise i raced.

25psi

Dude 350z's are faster than Lt1's and Lotus's are faster than 350z's. IT is know way a drivers race. Stop trying to make Lt1's faster than what they actually are!

MrDavid

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195 stock hp on the elise. If i'm not mistaken the 1/4 time is around 13.3 or .4. Probably a good match up for a stock 97-00 ls1 m6 at the track, but should not give you much trouble on the street from a roll. The Esprit is an I-4 with either single or twin turbo. Twin on the Sport 350 model. In 2002 was when Esprit V8 came out with twin turbos.

BOBA_VETT

Lotus' are built for curves. They will DEVASTATE most cars in turns and are really fast from a dig. They weigh ~2000lbs with a driver and have ~195hp stock. An Elise will take an LT1 unless you're talking about post-140mph, but isn't a match for even a bolt-on LS1.

If you see a guy on the freeway in an Elise and he engages, he doesn't know his car. If you see an Exige, beware, especially the Exige S which has ~245hp in a 2k lbs car.
If you see an Elise/Exige on a windy road, don't start. Even if the guy doesn't know the car, he could probably still stomp you.

I know this as FACT (since I race my buddies Elise ALL THE TIME).

Good kills.

95_formula

Those cars will out 0-60 an ls1 but will run about the same quarter mile but will get beat pretty bad at high speeds. hell I know an lt1 will out run one at high speed but not through the 1/4. And LT1s are faster than 350 Zs.

99Z28camaroman

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Good job you where on the freeway a lotus Elise would whoop the LS1's **** on a twisty road.

When they tested the Exige S on Top Gear in the UK in lapped their circuit 1.7 seconds faster than the C6 Vett, but 2.7 slower than the C6 Z06 which I must add was a very impressive car beating cars that were 7 times it cost! Like the £350,000 Pigarni Zonda!

The Elise was 10 seconds a lap slower there must be a big difference between the Exige S and the Elise.

I embarressed a 350Z with my 95 Z28 so the LS1 would eat it!

Asmodeus

350Z's are slow as *****, I'm tired of them trying to egg me on. It's pointless. They get destroyed constantly. I just stopped running them because 99.9% of them are a joke. It's a girl's car. Looks like a VW and a Jaguar had some sort of deformed offspring. With full bolt-ons I put buslengths on them from a highway punch, with the heads/cam going in this spring.. I won't even waste the gas. They are no longer on my "risk to race" list.

93transam

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Wow man 350z' are not faster than LT1s. They are even at best. Back when I had my 93 Transam I used to race my friend in a Z from rolls and digs all the time. All I had on the TA were Edelbrock mid-lengths which sucked and he had an intake and exhaust (I can't remember if it was full or not). From digs I would get him by a half a car length, and from a roll he would get me by about a car. My LT1 was a A4 and he had a stick in his. But 350Z's are NOT faster than LT1's. That is totally incorrect.

25psi

My first video I made was against an LT1. Both of us were manuals and we ran to 140mph. I must have put 3-4 cars on him. There are vids all over streetfire of 350z's pulling Lt1's left and right. 350's make more power, lighter, better gearing and typically run higher traps through the 1/4. Granted, they might be what and what through the first 60ft, but after that its all over.

Stock for stock:

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...a817ab8fb8.htm

roll:

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...804fcc1ea1.htm

Lt1 with built head and bolt ons vs 350z with intake:

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...df3773a3d7.htm

93transam

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Like I said I used to race my friend's 350 Z ALL the time and the results were exactly like I posted. I suspect that if I would have had an M6 instead of the A4 he wouldn't have been able to beat me at all from a roll. Plus all the models of 350Z's barely got the 300 hp rating. Before this year or the last it was the Track model I believe that had 300hp, and I have seen maybe one Track edition. Most of the 350's on the road are the coupe touring etc which before this year were like 280 at the most (you probably know better). Besides the WS6 and the SS were rated at 305 hp when they came out so your statement that the Z's have more hp is incorrect. Plus the weight difference is not that great... http://www.nissanusa.com/z/specifications_coupe.html
Like I said from a dig in my LT1 I never had a problem taking stock or even stockish Z's. Never raced any Z's with more mods with that but we're talking stock anyways.

25psi

My point is that, everyone says they can beat 350z's but never have proof to show. But when I show vids or proof of counteracting your therories, people get upset. Until someone shows me different, I stand by what I said!

WRX-ERROR

Lotus Elise was never meant to be a drag car. This car was built to do one thing and do it better then 99% of the cars out there. It was built to turn plain and simple.

As for the 350z. I'm not the biggest fan of them but I'll admit they seem to take to FI pretty well. They can make some good power with FI and the kits don't seem to cost that much.

GMendoza

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That sounded like a 2.73 geared Z28. Not the best performer of the LT1's

25psi

Thats not the point! There not faster than 350z's

93transam

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Well it's not that important to "prove" what I already know, too you... if you want to believe all stock 350's are faster than all LT1's then you go right ahead, but there are not. Plus a few videos of a 350z beating an LT1 is not proof that ANY given stock 350Z is faster than any given stock LT1, because that is simply not true. You know why because I WOULD BEAT STOCK 350'S IN MY STOCK 93 TA SO NO, THEY ARE NOT FASTER THAN LT1'S.

Like I said I would say they are about even depending on driver and tranny. M6 vs M6 I would give it to the LT1 expecially the SS or WS6 models.

Rawr256

350Z's are comparable to the 99-03 Mustang GT, they run real similar times all the way down the line. At our local track best I have heard of was one running low 14's with just intake. Buddy in his GTP with just I/E and tune walked one and beat the 350Z by two tenths. I do know that that Nissan motor does pretty decent from a roll, nothing equal to that of what LS1 pulls like. LT1 I have no idea how hard they pull, only LT1 I have been in was a late 80's vette and at the time it felt like it was the fastest thing in the world, that and me and a buddy had it sideways down one of the main roads in town. I often hear they are good for high 13's with the M6 low 14's auto... There seems to be a wide variaty, I know some are getting old now and have been beaten to hell... I don't think I have ever seen one locally w/o more than 100k miles now that didn't sound like it had problems. I would say they are pretty comparable performance wise. I am sure they have more power than people give them credit for...

The Lotus, basically a track car as mentioned, they aren't really built for the straight line but they can put up a fight with it when needed. They use a toyota engine that Lotus has put their own cams in it and have done their own tune, they really only kick in the serious power @ 6300ish RPM and on, they redline @ 9k IIRC. I remember watching Clarkson drive it around their track and myself was amazed at how well it performed. Lotus's main focus is the race track, to achieve the speed aspect they make the car as light as possible. In the new S version (has the S/C) it is even 250 lb's lighter IIRC.

I wouldn't mind owning one! Don't think I would fit in it too well though considering I am 6'7".

FL Junkie

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theres a guy around here thats got a yellow/black exige. he brought it by the shop one day and i was eyeing it...just a 4 banger mounted in the back. car looks very light, very simple interior... he has to remove the steering wheel when he gets out and re-attach it when he gets in.
1900 lbs. sounds right. he would have destroyed you in a road race. i guess thats why he was weaving through traffic 130....its the only way he could beat you.