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01-20-2007, 11:13 PM
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Question All right i have a 02 tran am with msd plug wires tr 55 plugs slp lid and magna flow cat. now my friend has a 03 srt4 with about 340 to the wheels what else would i have to do to beat him from lets say a 30 roll. and he has a 50 trim kit that should put him to 480 to the wheels. granted in the quarter i own him because of his lack of traction but i want to keep it fair. i was just wonderindg what other mods i would need to do to beat him. i would like to keep it NA no spray. thanks for the help
01-20-2007, 11:31 PM
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All right i have a 02 tran am with msd plug wires tr 55 plugs slp lid and magna flow cat. now my friend has a 03 srt4 with about 340 to the wheels what else would i have to do to beat him from lets say a 30 roll. and he has a 50 trim kit that should put him to 480 to the wheels. granted in the quarter i own him because of his lack of traction but i want to keep it fair. i was just wonderindg what other mods i would need to do to beat him. i would like to keep it NA no spray. thanks for the help
01-21-2007, 12:48 AM
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Yea i really cant stand when they say that, or you have a bigger engine so i need something, well dont buy it to start with, well anyway i would like to stay away from spraying. i was wondering if just a cam, full exhaust, lid under drive pully,free mods, and a tune would com close.
01-21-2007, 11:53 AM
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He has 480 rwhp or is this a guess? I'd say a big cam/heads/full intake/ehaust/tune, should net you in the upper 400 rwhp range, but his car is lighter too. So getting rid of some excess baggage would help a little (spare tire/jack, rear seat). W/ all that power your gonna need traction too, so susp. upgrades will help you out alot. Have fun spending money just to compete w/ your buddy! 
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Originally Posted by ricernomore
i was just wonderindg what other mods i would need to do to beat him. i would like to keep it NA no spray. thanks for the help
A4: Get a 7.0L/427ci motor with a very aggressive heads/cam setup. Go higher compression since you don't plan on forced induction. Get some big 1 7/8" LT headers with a true dual system. Get a 4000 stall TC and a built 4L60E from FLT (Level V should do it).
M6: Get a 7.0L/427ci motor with a very aggressive heads/cam setup. Go higher compression since you don't plan on forced induction. Get some big 1 7/8" LT headers with a true dual system. Get a STRONG clutch and a 12 bolt/9 inch rear with 3.90 or bigger gears.
Yeah I know this will all cost a fortune. But you never said what your price limit was, so assuming you don't mind dumping $15-20K either of these setups should kill your competition from a roll, stop, or anything else. But you'll need suspension and tires as well. Very big, very sticky tires.
Or if you're willing to go with spray, just get a basic heads/cam package with a full exhaust and hit it with a 150 shot.
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Originally Posted by fast01z28
what about the STS turbo setup? run a turbo against a turbo, and the v8 will win.
01-21-2007, 05:30 PM
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well i have the six speed, but i was just wondering. im not going to dump all that money into the car just to win. this is my project car if it wins it wins if it doesnt then it just wont. but i will tell you he has about 13 grand in just the engine, to me just to be getting around 480 to the wheels is just sad. i guess if its built right i wouldnt mide spraying a 150 shot. my friends ws6 with headers, true duals, and a lid spraying a 150 shot rans a pretty steady 11.2. there is always goona be someone faster. just wondering what i would need to get about 400 to the wheels
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Originally Posted by ricernomore
just wondering what i would need to get about 400 to the wheels
01-21-2007, 06:16 PM
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bolt ons and a decent cam will get you close to 400. Throw in some posted ls6 heads or something to seal the deal. And spray it just in case.
But I agree, a 480 to the wheels is one nasty skittle.
But I agree, a 480 to the wheels is one nasty skittle.
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i ran agains a skittle that had everything but a larger turbo done to it..and i just have an intake and !muffler!...i didnt kill him by any means but i stayed a head of him by about a car length....so this guy must have one HUGE turbo under there...H/C and full exhaust my friend!!! good luck!
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What all has this guy done to his car with this 13 grand he has dumped into it? And have you heard that he has 480hp or seen it? I saw a SRT-4 dyno yesterday as a matter of fact, and it had slightly upgraded turbo, intake, boost controller, open downpipe, and was on 20lbs. It made 273rwhp on a DynoJet!! I would love to know how this guy is making 480 on his skittle.
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I have two friends w/ skittles (black and red).
One (red) is (was) the FASTEST street drivin (full weight, etc.) skittle in the US, or it was till he blew the motor. Full custom handmade pieces, big turbo on n2o.
The other (Black) has stock block, 60 trim turbo, methenol inj, open down tube, on n2o he just put down 400 @22psi off the n2o. He has gone up to 30psi on the juice. Don't know what it'll make but that little ****** is fast as all hell, once he catches traction at the top of THIRD! That damned thing runs 12.0-11.5 @ 130's on 26" slicks.
If you ask me a waste of power. But the fact remains they do make it. Oh and NOW WHERE Near 13K in either. Actually less than 3K in the black one.
We race these lil cars all the time, in all seriousness, race him from a dig, there is no way in hell he is going to hook with that much power, even with a full slick.
One (red) is (was) the FASTEST street drivin (full weight, etc.) skittle in the US, or it was till he blew the motor. Full custom handmade pieces, big turbo on n2o.
The other (Black) has stock block, 60 trim turbo, methenol inj, open down tube, on n2o he just put down 400 @22psi off the n2o. He has gone up to 30psi on the juice. Don't know what it'll make but that little ****** is fast as all hell, once he catches traction at the top of THIRD! That damned thing runs 12.0-11.5 @ 130's on 26" slicks.
If you ask me a waste of power. But the fact remains they do make it. Oh and NOW WHERE Near 13K in either. Actually less than 3K in the black one.
We race these lil cars all the time, in all seriousness, race him from a dig, there is no way in hell he is going to hook with that much power, even with a full slick.
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Originally Posted by ricernomore
All right i have a 02 tran am with msd plug wires tr 55 plugs slp lid and magna flow cat. now my friend has a 03 srt4 with about 340 to the wheels what else would i have to do to beat him from lets say a 30 roll. and he has a 50 trim kit that should put him to 480 to the wheels. granted in the quarter i own him because of his lack of traction but i want to keep it fair. i was just wonderindg what other mods i would need to do to beat him. i would like to keep it NA no spray. thanks for the help
Come on, line 'em up, run 'em, and then see how it goes. Then come back here and write up a story about it.damn bench racers...
btw - IBTL.
01-22-2007, 09:26 AM
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Yes..just race him. And race him from a dig with no spray. You will be pleasantly surprised. He will wheelhop while you gain a few cars if you hook. Personally, I have destroyed a stage 3 skittle 3 outta 3 races because of that.
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do what i did wait to race him cause unless he strenghtens the internals he is going to blow it. thats what the guy around here did he bought the biggest turbo he could i think its the stg4 kit and it only took him about 4 months to blow it up.