99 Camaro (V6) Vs. 98 Mustang GT
01-28-2007, 01:25 PM
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I obv. didnt say a simple bolt on 3.8 camaro is gonna take down a 99-04 Mustang GT...dunno where you got that from....
95-02 camaro 3.8 is rated at 200hp and 225wtq...obv. bolt on's will make it a drivers race between a 94-98 GT thats stock. A head and cam package 3.8 will be a good run with a STOCK 99-04 Mustang GT.
95-02 camaro 3.8 is rated at 200hp and 225wtq...obv. bolt on's will make it a drivers race between a 94-98 GT thats stock. A head and cam package 3.8 will be a good run with a STOCK 99-04 Mustang GT.
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01-28-2007, 08:39 PM
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Who cares, id take a V8 mustang over a V6 camaro/firebird anyday....and I hate ford. And its kinda funny the guy got those times at Z28.com 
, don't you think they might be oh I dunno a little biased?
, don't you think they might be oh I dunno a little biased?
01-28-2007, 09:35 PM
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I used to have a 96 GT M5 w/ barely nothing done to it and I remember I raced a 2001 v6 camaro and he told me he walked 4.6's all the time and I completely destroyed it, so it had to be the driver....yah the 96-98 2V 4.6's sucked *** but they are a hell of alot better than the 3.8 junk in the 6 cylinder fbodies....
01-28-2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I'm gonna play devil's advocate on this one. I had a '98 GT (when I bought it, it was stock) 5spd, and yes it was slow... but not V6 Camaro speed. But almost all of the 94-98 cars have 2.73s as well, and mine was one of the few that got 3.27s. I'm sure that's worth some noticeable difference. And Echo, I think you're thinking of the Y87 package Camaros. I raced an A4 Y87 back when I had my old Integra (stock) from 0-90, and I was surprised that I didn't pass him till about 70mph. They run pretty well.
01-28-2007, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Joezee
99gts start with 260hp AND torque = low 14's???
Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
Ibut thank god they atleast made it a little faster then the previous years
01-28-2007, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dsblk93gt
A guy I know with a stock 98 GT auto ran a 14.8@92, I doubt a stock V6 Camaro is going to run that. My friends 94 GT with exhaust, slicks, and gears ran a 13.5@103.
The 94-98 GT's are not super fast..but not anywhere near as slow as most people make them out to be. An auto 2.73 geared 94-98 might get beat by a good driver in a 3.8 Camaro. But a good driver in a 5spd 94-98 should have no problem at all beating one. A 3.1 is not even going to come close in this lifetime.
A 99-04 GT 5spd is a 13.7-14.2 car PERIOD. I have seen dead stock ones at the track run a 13.7 with my own eyes. The auto cars are usually 14.1-14.4 stock. I think alot of people are racing the 3.8 Stangs with dual exhaust..lol.
Hell..even a 99-04 3.8 V6 Stang is a mid 15 second car....
And quoting magazine times is a waste of time. They put alot of the 5.0 foxbodys at a mid 15...haha..only a SECOND off there normal times.
The 94-98 GT's are not super fast..but not anywhere near as slow as most people make them out to be. An auto 2.73 geared 94-98 might get beat by a good driver in a 3.8 Camaro. But a good driver in a 5spd 94-98 should have no problem at all beating one. A 3.1 is not even going to come close in this lifetime.
A 99-04 GT 5spd is a 13.7-14.2 car PERIOD. I have seen dead stock ones at the track run a 13.7 with my own eyes. The auto cars are usually 14.1-14.4 stock. I think alot of people are racing the 3.8 Stangs with dual exhaust..lol.
Hell..even a 99-04 3.8 V6 Stang is a mid 15 second car....
And quoting magazine times is a waste of time. They put alot of the 5.0 foxbodys at a mid 15...haha..only a SECOND off there normal times.
. And FWIW, I had a buddy run a 15.2 in his '00 V6 5spd Mustang with just exhaust. Not too shabby.
01-28-2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
I used to have a 96 GT M5 w/ barely nothing done to it and I remember I raced a 2001 v6 camaro and he told me he walked 4.6's all the time and I completely destroyed it, so it had to be the driver....yah the 96-98 2V 4.6's sucked *** but they are a hell of alot better than the 3.8 junk in the 6 cylinder fbodies....
junk 3.8 in the F-bodys....kinda funny
real junk when you can throw on a turbo and they make can make over 450rwhp on a 100% stock engine.....start modding the motor with a nice head/turbo cam package and they are then well over the 500rwhp mark...i suppose the grand nationals 3.8's are junk too??? ooo and the GTP's....
01-28-2007, 11:47 PM
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Wow if a 99-04 Mustang V6 is a mid 15 second car then I guess my stock Cavalier Z24 can run low 15's because my best friend has a 2003 V6 with the pony package whatever that is, he said it's a higher output 3.8 but I don't know about that and he also put full exhaust on it. And I still beat him every time he would try and run me. Course now I don't stand a chance because he bought a 99 Cobra with cams. Now that thing's fast. For a Mustang atleast.
01-28-2007, 11:51 PM
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"Pony Package" was basically just the stripe down the bottom of the side of the car. But just cuz you beat one, don't assume you can run a time faster than one with a good driver. Go to the track and find out.
01-30-2007, 07:58 PM
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haha the 3.8's that came in the stangs and the fbodies have been and always will be garbage. the grand nationals are a diff story, they have a much larger aftermarket following than the fbody and stang 3.8's plus they come with a turbo stock and can actually handle boost....so you can make 450 rwhp with a turbo on a 3.8? uhh ok you want a cookie or what, some ls1's make that NA.... 3.8's are the base engine that come in the cars....this site is called LS1TECH.com not 3.8TECH.com......
01-30-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tspence45
Wow if a 99-04 Mustang V6 is a mid 15 second car then I guess my stock Cavalier Z24 can run low 15's because my best friend has a 2003 V6 with the pony package whatever that is, he said it's a higher output 3.8 but I don't know about that and he also put full exhaust on it. And I still beat him every time he would try and run me. Course now I don't stand a chance because he bought a 99 Cobra with cams. Now that thing's fast. For a Mustang atleast.
If that doesn't spell R-I-C-E-R...I dont' know what does.
01-30-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
haha the 3.8's that came in the stangs and the fbodies have been and always will be garbage. the grand nationals are a diff story, they have a much larger aftermarket following than the fbody and stang 3.8's plus they come with a turbo stock and can actually handle boost....so you can make 450 rwhp with a turbo on a 3.8? uhh ok you want a cookie or what, some ls1's make that NA.... 3.8's are the base engine that come in the cars....this site is called LS1TECH.com not 3.8TECH.com......
and who invited you to be the real ******* on this page. The Grand nationals are not a different story. Their aftermarket is only a Tad bit larger then ours is now and soon it will be fairly even as a Member is in the making of a 1000 HP TT 3.8 Fbody and will be mass producing this turbo kit after the car goes out for some runs....and of course Tiago (which most of you members know since he now built a 1000rwhp TT trans am) Has produced turbo kits for Our F-bodys on demand. Theres also another company working something up...as long as the demand is there, it will always keep getting bigger and bigger...
Yah im aware that a LS1 can achieve 450rwhp with complete bolt on and a nice head and cam package...but guess what....it will take us less money to slap on a overall 5000.00 dollar turbo kit (including fuel upgrades and tuning) to get that 450rwhp then it will take a LS1 to do a complete head and cam package followed by bolt ons....
the question is, which is more impressive?? a 450rwhp V6 f-body or a 450rwhp N/A LS1?? most people would agree with me on the V6...
www.turbov6camaro.com
www.force-fed-fabrications.com
check them out....you might educate yourself on a thing or two
01-31-2007, 08:12 AM
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Wow 1000 hp in a 3.8, that's 263 hp per liter.
That's like having a 20 in **** to the ricer community.
They are both about as streetable.
Otherwise that is a pretty impressive coc-engine.
That's like having a 20 in **** to the ricer community.
They are both about as streetable.
Otherwise that is a pretty impressive coc-engine.
01-31-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
I don't mod my car to impress other people with the, "Wow the engine is that small?" factor. That's semi-ricer mentality, atleast imo.
im not talking how its impressive cause the size of the motor....im talking how its more impressive because you Never see it done...correct??
01-31-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Genesis_26317
Wow 1000 hp in a 3.8, that's 263 hp per liter.
That's like having a 20 in **** to the ricer community.
They are both about as streetable.
Otherwise that is a pretty impressive coc-engine.
That's like having a 20 in **** to the ricer community.
They are both about as streetable.
Otherwise that is a pretty impressive coc-engine.
im impressed that you can do math....didnt know we have that smart of people floating around in these forums. Congrats. Also you talking about ***** on a Guy based forum is kinda you know....
But i guess for some of us, the internet is like hiding in a Big closet 
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01-31-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
im impressed that you can do math....didnt know we have that smart of people floating around in these forums. Congrats. Also you talking about ***** on a Guy based forum is kinda you know.... But i guess for some of us, the internet is like hiding in a Big closet
But i guess for some of us, the internet is like hiding in a Big closet ^^^ What the hell is this guys problem?
*Lisp* somebody is a bit sensthitive today aren't they.
