350z w/spacer,exhaust, tune vs Ls1 w/lid, exhaust VIDEO
01-29-2007, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1 jeff
So you think an LT1 is 1:1 in 4th and if your not mistaken the 350 is 1:1 in 5th? You aren't for sure, but your posting them as facts. You may very well be right, but Id still like to see the ratio's of the 350. The LT1 is a 1:1 in 4th. 5th and 6th are both OD's.
Id go and search the net for vids of LT1's smoking 350Z's, but I dont want to waste my time.
Id go and search the net for vids of LT1's smoking 350Z's, but I dont want to waste my time.
If your OD are 5th and 6th, then the Z would most likely pull alot harder than the LT1. This is why you see Supras and Viper pull alot harder on the top end, becuase of there gearing and 3.18 final gear.
01-29-2007, 08:06 PM
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I have done 2 runs with a stock 350Z and a bolt on one.....the bolt on one was from a 70 roll on the highway....it had intake,headers and exhaust and i pulled a car and a half on him to 110 where I shut down. The other one was completly stock and i ran from a roll (had 3 cars on him by 90 from a 40 roll) and once from a dead stop. I had him off the launch untill i hit full boost in the top of first gear, car broke sideways so i had to let off to get traction again....once i got back on the gas i caught back up to him and pulled half a car by 100 where i shut down....my tranny is shot between the 2nd and 3rd shift...Overall i thought they were pretty good races...but then again i have a 3.8 not a LS1
clearly driver is the biggest issue, then its the car
clearly driver is the biggest issue, then its the car
01-29-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
If your OD are 5th and 6th, then the Z would most likely pull alot harder than the LT1. This is why you see Supras and Viper pull alot harder on the top end, becuase of there gearing and 3.18 final gear.
I can see the Z pulling after an LT1 shifts to 5th, but that is at a pretty high speed.
01-29-2007, 08:31 PM
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All rational car guys know that a strong LT1 (not the crappy 2.89 geared A4's) and stock 350Z is a drivers race. I beaten/been beaten by stock 350's depending on roll or dig and what speed for the roll race. To the OP, nice race. That's a nice Z. Outcome seems right to me with the weight difference and driver error.
01-30-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by golfinz
Whats goin on guys? Im the Z owner and thought that I would come and see what the LS1 crowd was sayin about the race. My mods are: 5/16 spacer, intake, exhaust, hfc, and a tune. I put down 243rwhp and 228rwtq...I have posted the dyno graphs in the tuning section of my350z.com if anyone is a member. His mods are a lid and magnaflow exhaust. It was a great race, as you can see, and from a 40 roll he usually puts me at his rear bumper. From a dig, he has a hard time catchin up.
We both started in second gear and both can drive, imho...listen to vids closely. Stock for stock...ws6>Z, everytime! Damn the LS1 topend
We both started in second gear and both can drive, imho...listen to vids closely. Stock for stock...ws6>Z, everytime! Damn the LS1 topend
i know we don't race on dynos but **** there's somethign wrong with that ls1 or the driver. probly a mix of both.
01-30-2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by slow trans am
that guy has you by 70whp or so and can't seem to pull away from a roll or stop? i know your a few hundred pounds lighter but not enough to make it even.
i know we don't race on dynos but **** there's somethign wrong with that ls1 or the driver. probly a mix of both.
i know we don't race on dynos but **** there's somethign wrong with that ls1 or the driver. probly a mix of both.
Now where are all the people talking about area under the curve now. All of a sudden hp wins wars.
There was nothing WRONG with the driver. He already stated he doesnt pull anymore after the 350z's mods. Before he would pull by 2 cars, now with the modifications the Z has made, it is a totally different story. Sorry to bust everyones bubble here, but those few mods to the Z, really woke the car up.
01-30-2007, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Now where are all the people talking about area under the curve now. All of a sudden hp wins wars.
There was nothing WRONG with the driver. He already stated he doesnt pull anymore after the 350z's mods. Before he would pull by 2 cars, now with the modifications the Z has made, it is a totally different story. Sorry to bust everyones bubble here, but those few mods to the Z, really woke the car up.
There was nothing WRONG with the driver. He already stated he doesnt pull anymore after the 350z's mods. Before he would pull by 2 cars, now with the modifications the Z has made, it is a totally different story. Sorry to bust everyones bubble here, but those few mods to the Z, really woke the car up.
01-30-2007, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 06cobaltSS
hp always did win wars. Some people just don't realize this. When you're racing and you're always at high rpm's and staying there because of a close ratio m5, or m6 low end torque means nothing.
01-30-2007, 10:03 AM
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I think the LT1 has a 1:1 in 4th gear if I'm not mistaken and the 350z is 1:1 in 5th gear.
I've posted atleast 10 vids over the last 2 years on here, where stock 350z's constantly walk LT1's as speeds increase. What else do you need to see. Dynoes dont mean ****! There about numbers and thats it.
I've posted atleast 10 vids over the last 2 years on here, where stock 350z's constantly walk LT1's as speeds increase. What else do you need to see. Dynoes dont mean ****! There about numbers and thats it.
LT1 and LS1s have the same trans. both show 1:1 in 4th gear.
01-30-2007, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 06cobaltSS
hp always did win wars. Some people just don't realize this. When you're racing and you're always at high rpm's and staying there because of a close ratio m5, or m6 low end torque means nothing.
Originally Posted by FoxNotch
Originally Posted by 25psi
I think the LT1 has a 1:1 in 4th gear if I'm not mistaken and the 350z is 1:1 in 5th gear.