Anyone have a vid of a LS1 vs LT1 (stock to stock)?
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Originally Posted by CALL911
What I am saying and have been saying is that the LT1 has a different power curve than the LS1 and will initially have more torque than the LS1 thus running slightly quicker 1/8 mile or 0-60 time, until the LS1 hits its curve and has use of its greater HP. If you don't believe me, look at the video I posted up again. It is of poor quality, however it demonstrates my point perfectly.
CALL911, can u send my all those videos that people sent u to my email please? i would like love to see races stock for stock! i've never seen 2 stockers run together. thanks! email is: sdm1234@lycos.com
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Originally Posted by Joezee
call911.....YOU ARE WRONG......100000 times proven......get over it.
Walking dead...I totally agree with your post....I had a 92 tpi 350 AND my ls1 at the same time.....on the street the 92 feels faster at anything under 60mph....
I know two corvette owners who were SORRY they traded their tpi cars in on new lt1s back in 92.....because of the loss in torque below 4000rpms.....
TPI= torque
LTI= horsepower
LS1= BOTH
Walking dead...I totally agree with your post....I had a 92 tpi 350 AND my ls1 at the same time.....on the street the 92 feels faster at anything under 60mph....
I know two corvette owners who were SORRY they traded their tpi cars in on new lt1s back in 92.....because of the loss in torque below 4000rpms.....
TPI= torque
LTI= horsepower
LS1= BOTH
I have never stated that the LT1's were faster in anything other than the get go, (0-60, 1/8 mile). I even put the video up to prove it. Decide what you want. I have.
Last edited by CALL911; 02-02-2007 at 09:20 PM.
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Originally Posted by CALL911
I have never stated that the LT1's were faster in anything other than the get go, (0-60, 1/8 mile). I even put the video up to prove it. Decide what you want. I have.
This is the experience I've had as with others - time and time again.
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Originally Posted by JKDZ28
There not faster from the get go, look at the video on page 2.
This is the experience I've had as with others - time and time again.
This is the experience I've had as with others - time and time again.
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Also the second video posted was a 2002 LS1 T/A Ws6 pushing like what 325 hp at least and the 97 T/A WS6 pushing 305-310 HP. I know its not much. Also lets stop fighting. We are on the same team.
Lets talk about how both LT1 & LS1 beasts pwn 4.6 liter stockers :-)
Lets talk about how both LT1 & LS1 beasts pwn 4.6 liter stockers :-)
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
I don't know why these threads spin out of control. The LS1 is faster. Period.
If you want to see a good stock for stock race, line up a M6 Ram Air LT1 against an A4 2.73 LS1.
If you want to see a good stock for stock race, line up a M6 Ram Air LT1 against an A4 2.73 LS1.
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Funny how the LS1 guys get all defensive when they even hear that someone believes an older LT1 might actually be faster at one small part of a race.
Whats even more interesting is the fact I opened this thread on both this forum, and the "other" big f-body forum that has more LT1 guys than LS1 guys, and how the results from both threads go with the majority of specific engine owners.
Whats even more interesting is the fact I opened this thread on both this forum, and the "other" big f-body forum that has more LT1 guys than LS1 guys, and how the results from both threads go with the majority of specific engine owners.
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factory ratings bs
Originally Posted by brejcha
Also the second video posted was a 2002 LS1 T/A Ws6 pushing like what 325 hp at least and the 97 T/A WS6 pushing 305-310 HP. I know its not much. Also lets stop fighting. We are on the same team.
Lets talk about how both LT1 & LS1 beasts pwn 4.6 liter stockers :-)
Lets talk about how both LT1 & LS1 beasts pwn 4.6 liter stockers :-)
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Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
tpi cars are strong on bottom end but the ls1 will easily walk around it.in stock form.me personaly id pick the l98 over an lt1
Hahhahahahahaha pick a L98 over a LT1
L98 is a boat anchor in my book.....Unless you have a Mini ram on it, and really good good heads
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5.7 sbc an anchor
Originally Posted by slick1851
Hahhahahahahaha pick a L98 over a LT1
L98 is a boat anchor in my book.....Unless you have a Mini ram on it, and really good good heads
L98 is a boat anchor in my book.....Unless you have a Mini ram on it, and really good good heads
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No disrespect , but call911, nobody is being defensive.....EVERYONE has responded rather civil.....and yet you continue to believe the myth.....this board is about learning something and sharing knowledge about all of our cars.
So when someone makes, and continues to make false statements, even after this subject has been covered about 10,000 times in the past ,...what do you expect ???
L98s run low 14s with great low end torque.
Lt1s run high 13s to low 14s with good torque and good hp.
Ls1s run mid to low 13s with great torque and great hp.
this is not a secret......at no point in the rpm spectrum does an Lt1 make more torque than an Ls1......why does that offend people ? Lt1s were awsome in their day, and with some mods still are.....there are plenty of cars faster than an Ls1...just not an Lt1.....not bashing at all.
So when someone makes, and continues to make false statements, even after this subject has been covered about 10,000 times in the past ,...what do you expect ???
L98s run low 14s with great low end torque.
Lt1s run high 13s to low 14s with good torque and good hp.
Ls1s run mid to low 13s with great torque and great hp.
this is not a secret......at no point in the rpm spectrum does an Lt1 make more torque than an Ls1......why does that offend people ? Lt1s were awsome in their day, and with some mods still are.....there are plenty of cars faster than an Ls1...just not an Lt1.....not bashing at all.
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call911. the fact is the LS1 makes more power at any point in the rpms. its been shown on these boards numerous times in dyno graphs. second stock for stock both equally driven an ls1 will be an lt1 in the 1/8 mile. your bragging about 1 video lol. with noone know what the circumstances are. then argue with us who have ran vs lt1s numerous times. and come with the same results. when i have traction an lt1 is never infront of me. and even when i spin off the line im pulling back on the lt1 before im out of first gear. and im an a4 freaking convertible. and these experiences was when i just had a cutout.
like i said earlier i doubt even one lt1 100% stock ran 8.6 in the 1/8 mile. that was my time stock in my heavy slow a4 vert.
like i said earlier i doubt even one lt1 100% stock ran 8.6 in the 1/8 mile. that was my time stock in my heavy slow a4 vert.
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Originally Posted by CALL911
Funny how the LS1 guys get all defensive when they even hear that someone believes an older LT1 might actually be faster at one small part of a race.
Whats even more interesting is the fact I opened this thread on both this forum, and the "other" big f-body forum that has more LT1 guys than LS1 guys, and how the results from both threads go with the majority of specific engine owners.
Whats even more interesting is the fact I opened this thread on both this forum, and the "other" big f-body forum that has more LT1 guys than LS1 guys, and how the results from both threads go with the majority of specific engine owners.
I'll assure you, the LT1 is not faster from any RPM.
I had full boltons and I NEVER could beat a stock LS1 - never...
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If anyone can find ACTUAL dyno charts of a bone stock LT1 and a BONE stock LS1, you will find that the LT1's torque peaks at 2400 RPM at 325 (factory stats). The LS1 peaks around exactly the same torque (325 ish from the same factory stats), however at 4,000 RPM. During this difference in 1600 RPM, is the difference in question here. I will try to dig up factory/bone stock dyno graphs. If anyone else can post them up feel free as well.
LS1's also react better to mods than LT1's. This is most likely the big difference between my stock to stock video showing what I am saying that everyone says sucks compared with the modded LT1 with the modded LS1 video. The video is not of as good of quality, however it accuratly shows a STOCK LT1 vs a STOCK LS1. If you just say the video that shows a stock to stock LS1 vs LT1 sucks and then keep saying that a modded LS1 to a modded LT1 is accurate of both stock cars, you are not presenting a good or accurate case here. Show me another video of a factory stock LT1 vs factory stock LS1? Show me actual factory dyno graphs??
For those that keep screaming that LS1's make more power (total) and that they run faster in the quarter mile, you are not listening to what is in question. I have never disputed these facts of total power or quarter mile time.
LS1's also react better to mods than LT1's. This is most likely the big difference between my stock to stock video showing what I am saying that everyone says sucks compared with the modded LT1 with the modded LS1 video. The video is not of as good of quality, however it accuratly shows a STOCK LT1 vs a STOCK LS1. If you just say the video that shows a stock to stock LS1 vs LT1 sucks and then keep saying that a modded LS1 to a modded LT1 is accurate of both stock cars, you are not presenting a good or accurate case here. Show me another video of a factory stock LT1 vs factory stock LS1? Show me actual factory dyno graphs??
For those that keep screaming that LS1's make more power (total) and that they run faster in the quarter mile, you are not listening to what is in question. I have never disputed these facts of total power or quarter mile time.