Fadi

Sup fellas? Little bored, so I thought I would share my kill story that happend to me a few mths back.

A raced a buddy of mine that has an E55 AMG, stock. Well, that wasn't too close. After the race he said "Wow, that car is fast. From the looks of it, I bet it will give my Evo a good run". I thought he was kidding, but damn, it gave it more than a good run.

race 1:
40-140. He didn't brake boost, I win.

race 2:
40-160. He gets 1.5 car jump on me. I am thinking I am done. To my surprise, i am reeling him in and by the end of my third gear (125), i am a car ahead. I shift into 4th and i gain about 1/2 car only, and shut down at 160 where I am 1.5 cars ahead.

He ran a best of a 10.9@128 with a 1.6 60'. I told him I thought I was going to lose since trap speeds usually indicate the result from a roll. I guess all that drag from the AWD everyone talks about is no joke.

It was a good kill for me.

Oh ya, my car is stock, 460 rwhp..

Fadi

Oh, and I think if we would have raced from a 10-120, he would have beat me. That car is all down low. He took off like a bat out of hell from a 40 when he brake boosted.

But hey, catching him and passing by 125 is not all that much of top end (or is it? lol Not to me atleast)

Louie83

iTrader: (3)

Wow, that is somewhat suprising.

What does an Evo weigh?

gsrhunter

That is very surprising. My car beat a modded C6 Z06=500whp by about 5 cars. We raced from 70-180. I raced him on low boost which is also 500whp. Of course I have a 500 pound weight advantage over a C6 Z06, but the evo had 50 more whp than I. I guess that is why you hafta race and not just talk about it.

Fadi

I am not 100% sure. I actually have the video, but its so crappy. It was done via a high 13 sec chase car, and you can't see ANYTHING. It's upseting..

I will make sure to get another Vid comes spring time.

The trap speeds is what threw me off. 128 for the evo > 126 for my car, so he should have won. BUT, like I said, AWD creates a lot of drag, so that could be one reason.

I don't know. I just know I won and I was

lilbuddy1587

iTrader: (1)

70-180? Would you like some rice with that roll sir? Honestly dude, thats dumb. You have 500+ or - lbs less than the z06, make just as much power and we all know turbos LOVE high revs and that usually = serious top end. How is that a race? More like a top speed test... Not flaming just asking a question/ stating my opinion.

Fadi- great kill man!

Fadi

Thanks brutha. I wish the video didn't come out so crappy!!

NIevo

Well 128mph traps is kinda low for 550whp. Maybe that was on Race Gas or a high reading dyno, or he has a really heavy car. I dont doubt if you pulled at that high a speed, 5th gear would be just about maxed. Unless he has new gears or a built motor for hi rev's these cars are just geared to short.

demon2003

I was there for this race and that Evo was a bad *** car but Fadi beat him hands down both times if the guy with the Evo still has the car we will have to see if we can get them to race again for a better vid. as for gsrhunter read your profile and your car seems awsome but i cant Highly HIGHLY doubt you put even a half car on a Stock C6 Z06 Let alone beat a modded one. JMO

NIevo

BTW, do you know which model and what mods he has?

Oh yeah, I love the new ZO6, so sweet car man!

demon2003

This car was a complete build he told me he had over 30k alone invested in the motor. I never did ask about the trans though.

NIevo

Yes, but the ZO6 has about a 100lb advantage over the Evo. I also find the fact that you beat one up to 180mph, let alone that you went that high.

NIevo

Wow!! Sounds like he got ripped off if he's only at 550whp. $30k is alot of mods for these cars, like 9sec territory.

Fadi

Would you consider me being even with him at 100, and passing a little over that "high speed"?

Trust me, I am just as confused as you are. he did say that he had to shift into fifth gear, but my question is, if his fifth gear is indeed "overdrive" like he was telling me, why is it that I was able to BARELY get away from him in my STRONGEST gear, which is 4th from 125-162 while he was in "overdirve"?

It makes no sense and I just looked at it as an excuse. But maybe you can explain this to me since you would know more about these cars than me? (Serious note, not being sarcarstic)

oh, btw, here is his car in action:

10.98 @ 128

Fadi

Thanks bro. You too..

95LT1963

i went to college with a guy in houston at UTI who had a evo 8 ( i think ) and it was a pretty basic motor build nothin to radiacal ..it couldt be i went to college with him and we were both on college money...some of u know how that is...and on the dyno at school he put down 430 on LOTS O BOOST im thinkin like 25lbs...but he ran a 6 somthing in the 1/8th mile at one of our school track days... he beat one of our hot rod teahers ford falcon with a full blown 347 strkr 480 rwhp street/strip car...but these evos are no joke what so ever..
Justin Reynolds
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NIevo

Well like I said, it all depends on his mods and car model. If its a 5-spd then he would have to shift into 5th at about 124mph or so. A 6-spd at 118 or less. If he really has $30K into it and only putting down 550whp then something doesnt add up.

Id like to know his turbo set-up, I dont think Ive ever seen that flat a dyno. Doesnt fully spool till over 5.5k like a big turbo, yet it doesnt gain any power after 6,500 which is unlike a big turbo.

Fadi

It is indeed a 5 speed car, not 6. But what I don't get is this:

How can it be that i barely pulled on him up top (125+) where my car REALLY pulls while he is in 5th gear?? I mean, I was ahead of the guy before 125, so he was still in 4th gear before he had to shift into "overdrive" when I was ahead. But my question is, again, why didn't I pull on him as much at 125+ if he is indeed in 5th gear ("overdrive", according to him)?

Do you know, or have an educated guess? It just doesn't make sense, unless that 5th gear is really, really short and pulls really hard (which doesn't make sense either, lol)

Killemall

Well Im gonna awnswer this ne the best i can fadi.....

Yes you have a best mph trap of 126 mph and yes he has a best mph trap of 128 mph.

But coefficient drag dosent show it's ugly face till around 135 mph...

You raced to 140 and 160 mph.at these speeds your .34 drag is gonna *** rape the brick like drag of his EVO...and this is why despite him being a little faster in the 1/4 at 128 mph vrs your 126 mph...You will still win at 135 mph and up..

I hate to bring my viper into this but i beleave it is the perfect example..

A 1996-2002 GTS can run 11.7 at 120 mph in the 1/4 mile
A 1997-2002 rt10 can run 11.7 at 120 mph in the 1/4 mile

Their both nearly identical from the front
Both around the same weight ( 3380 for the rt10 and 3420 for the GTS)
Both have the exact same engine putting out 400-420 rwhp

but the GTS has a top speed of 191 mph vrs the rt10's top speed of 179 mph..

Thats a 12 mph differance from two cars that are nearly identical.

the reason is that the GTS has a .39 drag coeficiency while the rt10 has a .55 drag coeficiency.

This little differance in drag would never even be noticed by two viper owners of each respectice car. Theyed do 0-60 nearly equal and the 1/4 mile nearly equal. the better driver would get the win.

But when the day came that they wanted to do a freeway roll from 70-160 mph the GTS ( to their surprise after being so equal) would be dominant each and every time, and pull a few cars by 160 mph despite them both trapping the same in the 1/4 mile.

this is no different than your experience with this EVO. On paper and timeslips it looks like he has the advantage. But at 135 plus mph were the full characteristics of each car comes into play..Well youve already seen first hand what will happen.

Fadi

Great post, bro. I agree with you. But, that still leaves the question:

If the Evo's cd is that bad, why was I able to pull on him while he is in his 3rd and 4th gears (40-125), yet, I was barely able to get away from him while he was in his overdrive (5th) and I was in my "go" gear (4th)?

If what you are saying is true (which it is, and this is why this is confusing, lol) how can he keep up so well at 125+ and do worse from 40-125?

Good discussion fellas...