Killed a 350z
Originally Posted by BlackHoleSunSS
Did someone say that dollar for dollar the 350Z makes more than a Terminator? Am I getting this right? 
Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Absolutely. When modding any car, you want to pick an engine with the least amount of displacement and as few cylinders as possible, and build up from there. Granted, the 350Z doesn't have an inline 4 option, but still...I'd much rather build up a 3.5L V6 than a 4.6 V8 any day of the week. It is pure physics...smaller engines = more power, plain and simple. End of argument.
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i love how people are comparing s/c v8s to turbo charged v6s when we ALL know that v8 with a turbo on it at the same psi, will probally beat the v6.....then again, like i said before, HP doesnt always win if the weight diffrence is drastic enough
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Originally Posted by 25psi
The first turbokit for my car, cost me 7000 installed. I was still on the stock exhaust and stock ecu. This yielded me, 416rwhp and 454ftlb(8psi) and trap at 119mph. The twin turbo kit, cost me the same as what Ford charges for the blower they installed in the 03 cobras. So once again, the 350z>cobra.
Add up a built Cobra and a built 350z and see which one cost more. Find me a twin turbo cobra, that is fully built and see how much it cost him. I gaurantee you, its more than what I paid.
There's no skill in going straight for 10sec. So if you call that manly, go ahead. I'll take my risk on an autocross anyday over 1/4.
Add up a built Cobra and a built 350z and see which one cost more. Find me a twin turbo cobra, that is fully built and see how much it cost him. I gaurantee you, its more than what I paid.
There's no skill in going straight for 10sec. So if you call that manly, go ahead. I'll take my risk on an autocross anyday over 1/4.
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From: htown
Originally Posted by Kingsnake99
ok ...i dont think you know what youre talking about....the 350z for 2004 ranged up to $37,000 and the Cobra Coupe was $34,800...Ford didnt charge extra for the blower...are you sure you know what youre talking about...so what youre saying is for the immense amount of money you spent, you can barely beat a stock Terminator?
Its funny how you say ranged up to 37k, but didnt mention the base model was 24k. Big difference!
I'm more than in my rights, to compare a supercharged 4.6 v8, to a 3.5 liter turbo V6. So I guess your telling me, Ford picked the wrong FI kit to start with. Take your problems up with Ford, not me for producing something a 3.5 liter can stump, with less psi than its compeditor!
What you are failing to realize is, I only spend 7000 on the kit, plus installation. I was stock at the time, with a stock exhaust and ecu. I dont know if you are capable of discerning 8psi stock 350z trapping at 119, to a stock cobra at more psi, trapping at 110. That is a huge difference! Not one, not two, but three + cars. I suggest you take a look at the vids again! It takes a cobra with: pulley upgrade, exhaust, gears, ported blower and "ALL BOLTONS" to compete with a stock twin turbo 350z. So once again 350z twin>cobra with full boltons!
Streetfire is your friend. Go to 350z vs cobra and watch the vids. Im going to find the vids of me racing a full bolton cobra with a ported blower, racing up to 150mph, with me pulling him by 2-3 cars.
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Originally Posted by 95_formula
I was kinda on the fence about my opinoin on 25psi but this just told me that you are a total ricer. you are camparing a stroked high boost turbo motor with built internals to a stock displacement stock interal motor. not to mention it is one of the smallest v8s out there. you are pathetic. a 350 Z does not even hold a candle to a 03/04 cobra. and the times you posted for the cobras are way slow and the times you and your buddy posted for the 350 Z are too fast. A cobra is a 12.7 sec car and a 350 Z is a 14.3 sec car plain and simple. I dont car about the fastest ever stock run I am talking about average so please pull your head out your ***.
Your comprehension level is that of a mouse! A stroked out 350z, still isnt larger than a 4.6 liter Cobra and still produces more torque and hp than any graph I have seen out of a cobra with similar numbers.
Your delusional! Your attempt to campaign for your domestic counterpart, has failed! You simply posted the best time and not the means for the average cobra owner. I ran a 13.8 at 101, with a 2.2 60ft time. A full second off of what you quoted. So that alone, should tell you how ignorant you are. Hell motortrend or road&track bested my time with a 13.7 at 102mph and we know how they drive.
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Originally Posted by Wants an LS1
Uhh, buddy, im going to twin turbo my cobra and its going to cost me less then 7000 for the kit installed if not that amount. ive already priced it out and picked my kit. ill be making close to 850RWHP...on stock engine. and yes, my engine can handle that beacuse it IS built from the factory to a good extent. your stupid *** seems to forget, a 2003 cobra engine has been taken to the nines untouched internally, and does it realiably.
Whats the fastest 350 turbo run? does it **** with the 8second run of a not so well known street driven 2003 cobra that has a built to the hills engine? you are aware that a twin turbo cobra, at 8psi, on STOCK engine will **** up ANY 3.5 liter v6 at 9 or 10 psi? cost is cheaper to build a cobra then you think, the 4valve has been around a LOT longer then the 3.5 in your car so im begining to wonder were the **** you get half you theories from.
Whats the fastest 350 turbo run? does it **** with the 8second run of a not so well known street driven 2003 cobra that has a built to the hills engine? you are aware that a twin turbo cobra, at 8psi, on STOCK engine will **** up ANY 3.5 liter v6 at 9 or 10 psi? cost is cheaper to build a cobra then you think, the 4valve has been around a LOT longer then the 3.5 in your car so im begining to wonder were the **** you get half you theories from.
Your gonna laugh. But your a full 2 sec off the fastest 350z. Try 6.5 at 216+mph. WHOA! I wonder how an 8 sec cobra would do against that
? The ls1 and cobra have been around longer and still havent produced more hp than the fastest 350z, which is 2100hp. Find me an ls1, ls2, ls7, 4.6 liter cobra that makes more than that and runs faster times and I will concede! Dont show me a none based production motor. I want one that came with the vehicle!How can a twin turbo cobra with twin 67's, beat a 350z and it cant even beat AMS evo
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Originally Posted by Wants an LS1
Uhh, buddy, im going to twin turbo my cobra and its going to cost me less then 7000 for the kit installed if not that amount. ive already priced it out and picked my kit. ill be making close to 850RWHP...on stock engine. and yes, my engine can handle that beacuse it IS built from the factory to a good extent. your stupid *** seems to forget, a 2003 cobra engine has been taken to the nines untouched internally, and does it realiably.
Whats the fastest 350 turbo run? does it **** with the 8second run of a not so well known street driven 2003 cobra that has a built to the hills engine? you are aware that a twin turbo cobra, at 8psi, on STOCK engine will **** up ANY 3.5 liter v6 at 9 or 10 psi? cost is cheaper to build a cobra then you think, the 4valve has been around a LOT longer then the 3.5 in your car so im begining to wonder were the **** you get half you theories from.
Whats the fastest 350 turbo run? does it **** with the 8second run of a not so well known street driven 2003 cobra that has a built to the hills engine? you are aware that a twin turbo cobra, at 8psi, on STOCK engine will **** up ANY 3.5 liter v6 at 9 or 10 psi? cost is cheaper to build a cobra then you think, the 4valve has been around a LOT longer then the 3.5 in your car so im begining to wonder were the **** you get half you theories from.
I suggest you read my previous post, where I qouted a thread from the svtperformance site. Most feel the optimum, power you should run is betweem 550-600rwhp. Yes you can make 900, but it still wont be as reliable as my built 350z.
Here is a dyno graph of 346 stroker:
http://ktgutz.home.comcast.net/ecsdyno.jpg
Here's a 350z stroker:
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...ts/855rwhp.jpg
Who made torque earlier? Who has better area under curve? Once again 350z>346stroker.
this was made with the 2 psi more boost than the 350z. O, look at the torque! HMMMMMMMMMMMMM............. what happen? I thought bigger pushrod motors own in torque!!!!!!!!
You do understand, the 350z is a 4 valve motor also? Not every motor is created equal. Thats why you see camaro V6's making 500hp at 20psi. Mustang V6 making 500hp at 21psi, GN making 500hp at 18psi and 350z making 500 at 12psi, get my drift(no pun intended).
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Its funny that people always bring up price! I guess its brought upon, by people who cant afford it. I suggest you call MTI and tell them dont charge 18k for a 427stroker that only makes 550hp. Or Lingenfelter(sp)/RSI and tell them 100k, is way to much for a turbokit for a viper! Or 125k for a built Ford GT. But yet, you have the nerve to complain about a 20k, priced built twin 350z 
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
I'd much rather build up a 3.5L V6 than a 4.6 V8 any day of the week. It is pure physics...smaller engines = more power, plain and simple. End of argument.
