NightWindDriftr

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This won't end any debate. If the A4 f-body wins, the M6 guys will go on about how many more lengths they'd put on an NSX. If the NSX wins, the M6 guys will rant on about how lame a stock-stalled auto is on the highway.

At the very least, you're bringing the auto f-body outside of its dead spot. If it's possible, could we get a vid from a dig as well?

NightWindDriftr

iTrader: (4)

Agree. Why is this even a debate again?

Killemall

1997 Torch Red C5 Vette Z51 M6
Livernois Stage 2 Heads| Livernois Stage 2R Cam 236/236 .602/.602 | Blue Printed/Balanced/Rebuilt Internals
Kooks Long Tube Headers 1 7/8" | Kooks Off-Road X-Pipe | B&B Route 66 Catback
Vararam CAI | Ram VDS Clutch| LS6 Intake Manifold| Katech Ported Throttle body| TB Bypass | ASP 25% pulley | 160 Thermostat | Smooth Bellow
434 rwhp/390 rwtq

DAMN!!!!!!!

JUST LOOKED AT YOUR SIG..Man we could have some great races..

I have 6 more rwhp/92 more rwt...

But my registration says a hefty 3380 pounds and I have weak 3.07 gears..

So your 3.42 gearing and 100 pounds less weight would make it a great race btween the red viper and your red C5... SWEET RIDE

soulless

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Nobody has talked about torque, power under the curve or the gearing of the Z28. I could see the NSX pulling up top but the Z28 being in front for the first part of the race. The race is set up in the NSX's favor though, but it is all just finding out who will win. I think it will be a good race, and hope the owner of the NSX knows how to drive so it will be competitive.

Now post the damn vid!

Killemall

In the 1/4 mile the C5 and NSX are about dead even..No arguing that..

But from a roll I dont think it's even at all. Time will tell..Just waiting on a phone call

Cgillies86

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Yea, I am sure we would make a good race. My car was dynoed when the rebuilt motor had very few miles on it. Now that its broken it I am sure its got more

I am not sure the best way to compare cars is by the registration. I was going by the curb weight of both cars; I got my information from here: http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...7/97specs.html

The only way to get a good comparison would be to weigh both cars independently. You are correct that the NSX has better bearing than the C5. However, the NSX also has a lot less torque. The NSX is rated at 224lb-ft. The NSX has a final drive ration of 4.062:1.
NSX:
4.062*224FWTQ = 909ft-lbs in a 1:1 situation
C5:
3.42 * 300RWTQ = 1026ft-lbs at the wheels in a 1:1 situation

My assertion still is that it would be a close race between these two cars from any speed. However, I have never driven a NSX so I wouldn’t know.

Irunelevens

Great gearing helps make up for a lack of lowend torque.

SlvrFormula

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I'm stock I'm manual, and I'm up for a race

djsanchez2

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Many thanks (mine kinda looks like that, w/o the slicks and skinnies of course) and it's Adriana Lima!!

ONEBADASSWS6

A 6 speed will absolutely destroy an NSX from any speed. Dig, roll, top end, doesn't matter. Its a much more powerful car.

A 6 speed F-Body should be a close race for an manual NSX, since the NSX has the weight advantage.

I can't see an A4 F-Body beating a manual NSX though. It still has about 20WHP more, but its at a 300+lb weight disadvantage, and its gear ratios are less ten optimal for racing. If it was a stalled auto, that would be a different story.

25psi

People also need to take into consideration, the vettes 1:1 in 4th gear. So this basically means, that 5th and 6th are overdrives. Take a look at all the Vettes comparisons(ex. viper, lotus, etc......) they are always last are next to last, in 70-100 pulls or 110-140 pulls(examples). Yes the vette will reach 175-180+mph, but it would take longer to do so.

dailydriver

DAMN YOU!! You beat me to that! I was going to say the same exact thing!
Anyways, it's great to have our #1 import fanboy, GM/domestic basher back on board (although some have "picked up the slack" for the Nippon lovin'/domestic hating in his absense, it seems).
Let me be the first to say, "welcome back" Chrissy, we missed your "land of the rising sun" bias/slants/raves/rants!!

25psi

Ive been back for about 2 weeks, but havent posted! Thanx though!

Cgillies86

iTrader: (1)

If you look at the magazines you will also notice it says "Top Gear Pulls." So, of course the Vette will do badly when it has a 6th gear overdrive of 0.50:1 and a final drive of 3.42. The 6th gear on the Vette is strictly for gas mileage. The C5 hits 17X in 5th gear, not 6th. The Top Gear test is definitely not skewed for the Vette.

BigD 275

Just run them and see what happens. I say run from a dig as well.

This arguement can go back and forth forever, even with the race actually happening.

ONEBADASSWS6

Exactly. The Vette's broad powerband allows it to 5th gear to reach its top speed, not 6th. And 1st through 5th are close enough to keep the motor in its fat powerband, no problem.

25PSI just sees that 5th and 6th are overdrives and concludes that the car can't possiblt accelerate in those gears

25psi

I did not say that! IF you read what I said and not form your own conclusion, you would understand, exactly what was written.

" Yes the vette will reach 175-180+mph, but it would take longer to do so."

ONEBADASSWS6

And can you prove that??

If you shift at redline it never falls out of the powerband in any gear, 5th included.

25psi

Read what Cgillies86 wrote. They are not skewed for top end racing. Think about it. If your 5th and 6th gears are over drives, the only way to overcome that, is to have enough hp and we're talking about stock, not modded!

Slow Vette

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why not a DIG race? trying to handicap the ls1 huh??