<bUrP> Just ate my first evo!!
04-15-2007 | 01:41 PM
#101
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Originally Posted by jp74
Sorry you are mistaken, an LS1 is an LS1 please do your research, Mine dyno within 3 hp of my buddies 1999 and 4 hp to my buddies 2000. I raced a friends bone stock 2004 EVO from a slow roll when I was bone stock and had him by 2 lengths to 90 mph and 1 1/2 lengths from a dig to about 115 or so. I love how people say ls1's aren't fast. Sure a modded EVO can beat a stock LS1 but so can a modded civic. But stock for stock they are very similar with an EVO having the advantage from a dig and an LS1 from a roll. Bottom line I spent 7500.00 on my Formula and my Buddy spent over 30k. I won!!! I'll take the Formula thanks. Don't get me wrong I like the EVO but SOME of the people driving them are goofs.
To bad he was saying pretty much exactly what you just did. He said that is unlikely that a stock LS1 is going to buslength an Evo the way he claims if both drivers are actually racing. And he is right and you said so ^. A couple lengths is accurate. 10 cars is not. And thats what he said.
Edit: And he did not say anything about 98s being much slower than 2000s either. He said 98 because thats the OP's car that supposedly buslengths Evos in stock form.
04-15-2007 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NIevo
True, but what people dont realize is theres alot of difference in Evo model years. Its like comparing a auto LT1 to a M6 LS1. Theres almost a full second difference in the 1/4 and 5-6mph in the traps between a '03-'04 Evo and a new '06 model. A 2004 Evo would be the slowest of the models we have over here.
04-15-2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
To bad he was saying pretty much exactly what you just did. He said that is unlikely that a stock LS1 is going to buslength an Evo the way he claims if both drivers are actually racing. And he is right and you said so ^. A couple lengths is accurate. 10 cars is not. And thats what he said.
Edit: And he did not say anything about 98s being much slower than 2000s either. He said 98 because thats the OP's car that supposedly buslengths Evos in stock form.
Edit: And he did not say anything about 98s being much slower than 2000s either. He said 98 because thats the OP's car that supposedly buslengths Evos in stock form.
04-15-2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
A stock LS1 vs. a stock Evo from anything other than a dig is going to be more than a "couple car lenghts". We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.
i wouldnt go as far as saying a "couple car lenghts" now the VIII im not sure what id dynos at,never dynoed mine stock.i know the IX have dynoed about 263awhp stock(at least here in hawaii)
and a evo will have lag but with stock turbo it starts to spool fairly quick.i dont think a stock LS1 with get a couple car lenghts on it..
actually i believe i know a stock ls1 and a stock evo...maybe we can do the test for you guys
04-15-2007 | 03:22 PM
#106
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.
04-15-2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
A stock LS1 vs. a stock Evo from anything other than a dig is going to be more than a "couple car lenghts". We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.
04-15-2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jp74
Bottom line I spent 7500.00 on my Formula and my Buddy spent over 30k. I won!!! I'll take the Formula thanks. Don't get me wrong I like the EVO but SOME of the people driving them are goofs.
Thats alot of money to sink into ANY car with a turbo and not run single digits.
04-15-2007 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by XakEp
I'm sorry, but that doesnt add up. Anyone who sinks 30k into an EVO and isnt running 10s (or faster) is either channeling the spirit of Helen Keller or has never actually driven the car.
Thats alot of money to sink into ANY car with a turbo and not run single digits.
Thats alot of money to sink into ANY car with a turbo and not run single digits.
04-15-2007 | 07:21 PM
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i will see about getting the ls1vsevo stock for stock...
and 30K dump in a evo would kill! even if he missed gears he would still win..i think you mean maybe 25k for a used evo and 5k in parts....but a 30k modded evo is death...that would be a 37R or bigger,fully drivetrain,built motor...everything.
and 30K dump in a evo would kill! even if he missed gears he would still win..i think you mean maybe 25k for a used evo and 5k in parts....but a 30k modded evo is death...that would be a 37R or bigger,fully drivetrain,built motor...everything.
04-15-2007 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDestroyer
i will see about getting the ls1vsevo stock for stock...
and 30K dump in a evo would kill! even if he missed gears he would still win..i think you mean maybe 25k for a used evo and 5k in parts....but a 30k modded evo is death...that would be a 37R or bigger,fully drivetrain,built motor...everything.
and 30K dump in a evo would kill! even if he missed gears he would still win..i think you mean maybe 25k for a used evo and 5k in parts....but a 30k modded evo is death...that would be a 37R or bigger,fully drivetrain,built motor...everything.
04-15-2007 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Electric
Dude a 98 TA isnt that fast, and if you "played" something easily, maybe it wasnt an EVO. Where are you from BTW
04-15-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NIevo
There is no "turbo lag" between shifts. Also gearing plays a huge role, Evo's have 4.59 gears in them which mated to a high redline equals a car that pulls alot harder then alot of cars with more hp. Also have to take into consideration weight.
Why make **** up?? You lose boost between shifts, simple as that
04-15-2007 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Electric
Dude a 98 TA isnt that fast, and if you "played" something easily, maybe it wasnt an EVO. Where are you from BTW
You really are a moron. And a ricer to a T.
A stock LS1 will slaughter a stock Evo from a roll. I've seen it happen. I've done it. I don't need your ricer *** telling me about "how sick evos are dawg"
04-15-2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vipert/a
well it happened. and it was an evo. san diego. lotsa fast cars cruisin here all the time.
He's bent out of shape because he thinks Evos are as fast as LS1's stock for stock. He's in his own little riceboy world.
A place where Evos look good, sound good, and can't be beat by anything
04-15-2007 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDestroyer
^^haha...
and i think a stock for stock a evo will win from a dig and a roll..ill try and set up that race...
and i think a stock for stock a evo will win from a dig and a roll..ill try and set up that race...
We're talking about a 50WHP difference, and 165lbs.
3450lbs - 3285lbs = 165lbs
Plus the LS1 has the much better powerband and better top end power.
From a dig it would be close, because the Evo can launch harder. But from a roll, it shouldn't even be a race.
04-15-2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by B.W.
Maybe he means on the cars themselves, or the cars+mods. Either way it looks like a used car value is being compared to a new car value. Or maybe just what you said, lol.
*shrug*
04-15-2007 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
So the turbo magically stays in full boost between shifts.
Why make **** up?? You lose boost between shifts, simple as that
Why make **** up?? You lose boost between shifts, simple as that
Ok MR know-it-all about imports even though you hate them, why exactly do you lose boosts between shifts? Thats not a true statement under certain circumstances and its NOT exactly correct when it does apply.