Ibtl!! ^^ I Made It!!

 

Dive.....IBTL....yes!

 

That's one of their best selling points! Now, please, stop being a close-minded SRT4 fanboy. I like SRT4s, actually considered one for a DD, but the reality is that they are not THAT fast bone stock. Very high 13s if the owner can REALLY drive it. And, I'd be willing to bet that more than 1/2 of SRT owners can't REALLY drive em.

 

Oh...and IBTL!

 

lol, close minded?? Speak for yourself domestic fanboy. The srt can have staged mods stock, warrantied stock, and the stage 1 or stage 2 srt-4 will be as fast if not faster than your precious fbody that really isn't THAT fast stock anyway (and nevermind the lt1's those get left in the dust, and the srt's look better but that's just imho). I'd be willing to bet you can't drive for **** either bananahead...man your reply is the funniest reply I've read yet, I'm just playing along so you could hopefully get a clue as to how dumb those statements of yours were....and I'm supposed to be the close-minded fanboy, lol.

 

********, I drive a peon, why would I care what I drive, are you that self conscious. There is a nice srt following for the few years it's been around, it's a great all around car not to mention a fast sports aspecially for the price, and it's funny your f-body was around 30k this little peon that the original poster is so worried about is around 20k new correct me if i'm wrong.


Man I really hate ignorant ****** that type in lists and numbers like they have a damn clue what their talking about. It's a 2.4l for starters, and they didn't just throw on a turbo, do u even know how a turbo setup works? I can't believe the crap some of u ppl are spitting out as though it's fact. And just to humor u, lets say u were right, and it's just a regular economy neon with a turbo on it, then don't u think that's pretty sad that it can keep up if not beat your fbody's for being just a regular ol' economy neon with a turbo thrown togather.

And the funny thing is I hope to own an ls1 one day, I'm waiting until the new camaro's come out since I figure that's when the fbody fans will wanna trade in their old one's for cheap...but I'm supposed to be the close-minded fanboy huh?

 

x2, I think the only reason why he care's so much beforehand if he'll def. win or not is because of how everyone's bashing on those cars as if they are nothing, if they're so bad then why is he even worried. I think it'd be a good race, with the neon having the upper edge, turbo applications love nitrous (if the piston ringlands can handle it) so I think the bottle is gonna yield em some good power. But don't worry about what other ppl think like these knuckleheads that wouldn't be cought dead driving in a neon because they must of had it real good all their live's, and enjoy this hobby for yourself, basically go race em and find out, and let us know how it went and i'm sure ppl will help you down a decent mod path to beat the neon next time if u do happen to lose.

edit: Sorry for the triple post!

 

I'm certainly not calling you a fanboi or closed minded but I do have a few corrections to make.

Our cars also came with a warranty when they were new and to my knowledge they were not voided by bolt-ons. Heads/cam/N20 is another story

Lets look at our "not that fast" F-bodies. The fastest stock time I ever heard of was 12.8 and it's considered normal for some older 2.73 geared autos to be closer to 13.8. That gives F-bodies a range of 12.8-13.8 in stock trim. The fastest stock SRT-4 I have ever heard of is 13.6 (which is as rare as a 12.8 F-body) and that can go as high as 14.6. So SRT-4s are 13.6-14.6 cars in stock trim.

Any way you slice it the F-body (on average) is a solid half second faster in the quarter mile then a SRT-4 in stock trim. You guys will average 14.0 and we average 13.5. So if LS1 F-bodies are "not that fast anyway" then SRT-4's are a half second slower then "not that fast anyway".

The Irony here is that LT1's are also 13.6-14.6 stock trim cars. The general concensus is that the LT1 is a drivers race with a SRT-4 while the LS1 is one step ahead. Not being cocky here but just stating the facts.

SRT's being better looking is purely subjective but I have a feeling that opinion is in the minority. Not only here at LS1tech but also to the general public. Unless of course we were polling teenage girls across the country

I'm just kidding.

Or am I?

 

Rules are ment to be broken. This guy is just a reble without a cause.
Wa wa wa someone call the forum police because he broked the rules wa wa.

 

Srt-4s sound like **** and look like ****. but I don't care about them they are 4cly **** boxes that I would never own so I will not talk about them ,they have nothing on any year f-body.

 

Yeah I agree with a good driver, I've seen a 12.8 with those slp mods I think it was. The srt-4 compared to the lt1 I know is subjective and I was just playing along since everyone else was talking about looks (ricers, lol) but honestly, not that I have anything against the lt1's, but do you guys really prefer their looks over an srt-4? Many ppl that I've talked to can't stand the look of those cars, the ls1's though got it right, those look damn good, but something about those squared headlights of the lt1 just doesn't fit in with most of todays enthusiasts, just imho I know it's purely subjective, so think what you want.


I'm not sure what the general consensus is but like I said most srt's already have their staged mods from the factory, i mean in 04 it already came stock with lsd and stage 1, so the newer one's with their staged mods are one step above the first one's produced. I've never seen an srt have a hard time with the lt1's, with the ls1's i think the stage II srt-4's would be a good race, and I think you'd be surprised how well they can keep up if not take the win (i'm just talking about the warrantied mods you can choose to get for the car stock, not any other mods, u can easily mod an srt-4 for hardly any more money to beat an ls1, maybe a little raised boost will do it).

Also lastly (heh, this is funny cause I don't even own an srt-4, i just like to keep an open mind and keep a look out at the dif. cars at the track) the srt-4's all seem to run under 14's, i've never seen one run over 14's unless it had a horrible 60ft, maybe the first year srt-4's without their lsd may have been close to 14's but even then I remember ppl clicking off time's in the 13's pretty commonly. IMO it seems stock newer srt-4's will go high 13's usually, stage 1 will go mid 13's, and stage II will go low 13's, really tough for them to dip into the 12's imo being fwd.

 

You have 14 posts to your username and you're making fun of a moderator for pointing out the rules.

Are you trying to get banned or are you a rebel without a cause?

 

I believe unit is a mod here, just a heads up I'd show a little more respect.

Here's a secret, your lt1 looks like **** and has nothing for the srt-4, your 500lb's heavier with close to the same whp.

 

hahaha @ not owning an ls1. Wow. As predicted.

I've been in both cars. the interior/exterior is the same mostly outside of wheels/spoiler/hood. The engine is definately built to perform, but it's barely comparable to a stock ls1 f-body in their own right. NO, sorry I dont know the specs of the individual engines. But I've seen bolt-on turbo kits and 4-cylinder engines. They just did more engineering (READ: SRT) but PLEASE humor US and tell us what they did special in those engines that make them a stand-out.

Hopefully one day you get to own one, so you can actually appreciate the car instead of posting generalized information. (READ: your original post)

Didn't they discontinue the SRT-4 Neon for 08"??? Must be a reason they redesigning it. 260ft lbs of torque? I think the Caliber still wouldn't be for me.

Good luck on that ls1. Hopefully you can get out of that neon one day.

 

so they put 300hp 325trq to the ground and weight 2700 pounds?

 

This here blows my mind.Are there really people thinking this way?The LS1 uses some of the most basic boltons, that make modding the car a snap.Not to mention, adding the next level components,that makes these cars sub 12.5 car

 

FWD and street tires are reasons #1 and #2 for why I have never seen a stock SRT-4 hit better then a 14.0 at my track. I obviously don't own one either but I have been a long time member at srtforums.com so I know the 411 on these things stock or modded. Or at least I used to because I stopped hanging out there when warstories was removed.

Now granted the cars I see run are not stage 2 cars but as far as I know in 03 and 04 the SRT-4 didn't come from the factory with stage 2 or 3. People would buy the kits from aftermarket vendors. Not sure about 05 but from your remarks it sounds like Dodge offered stage 2 as a factory option.

 

I raped a stage 3 neon from a dig. Just go race him. Those cars are fun to drive though. The shifter feels sloppy like a Mack Truck, but running them through the twisties is actually a pretty good time. I'll give the little neon that could some credit for being a sweet all around car. I'd use one as a daily driver. Now go ahead boys, start flaming.

 

Wasnt the SRT4s engine the same platform as the Breeze or Stratus?"The family car"

 

lmao, you crack me up. I got my little peon because I decided to get out of this hobby and save for something more important. I used to have a dsm and I know how ppl can get carried away with this hobby, so I choose to buy a simple economical car until I save enough money to feel comfortable with, hopefully enough to have a good down payment on a house when the time is right, and then when I'm comfortable I'll gladly jump back into this hobby and get a nice fun sports car, but thanks for your concern though. And didn't they discontinue the camaro in 02?? Can't believe I'm replying to this crap...

And by the way it's funny how your comparing a 30k car's interior and performance to a 20k car, and the original poster is worried about loosing a race to one, pretty impressive for the price huh?