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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Im gonna let this go on without me.Ive said my piece.If u care to refer back to my previous posts,and salavate over what i said,go right ahead.
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Thank you! A domestic car guy who can appreciate the hobby in general and not spit and **** on a dif. type of car! Good ****! And man I wish I could get my hands on a laser those car's are light as hell, it take's nothing to get those things into the 12's.
So the verdict is in, you're a troll.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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So the verdict is in, you're a troll.

Sorry.

Yeah not so much. Nice firehawk by the way, that's a nice color.
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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damn this is way to many post about skittles

get back in your M&M car and stop thinking you will win an argument in favor of your car on an LS1 forum. Around here are blood type is GM and your playing with the big boys now, do us all a favor and troll on an import site.
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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wow. why all the fighting?
first of all, how did dsm's come up. because i think that subject should be avoided. they are ridiculously unreliable and not worth talking about. (before you flame, i had a 90 eclipse gsx).

the srt 4s are cool for what they are. they are NOT imports so i dont know why they are getting grouped as such. last time i checked, they were made by dodge. yes they have different stages of mods but none of which will break them into the 12s with a warranty. an slp optioned f body would have easily broken 12s from the factory, thats a simple fact.

modding a four cylinder is costly and doesnt at all yield the same power gain as modding a pushrod v8 does. granted you can turn up the boost on the srt and get quite a bit more power, but with that comes more fuel and more tuning. also, srt 4s are and will always be at a disadvantage in regards to usable power. firstly, they arent that fast stock,because they suffer badly off the launch from wheel hop. f bodies require suspension to pull off fast trap speeds as well, but you can get well into the 11s with sub frame connectors and a torque arm without much trouble.

the domestic community doesnt just get beat by fast imports and then label them rice. if we were honest, the only cars typically giving any ls1 trouble are modded evos and stis and on occasion, srt 4s. the fact is that people think for whatever reason that they need to make excuses for their cars not being fast so they just do stupid ****. if you really want to defend ricers, not imports, then you need to ask them why they constantly contradict physics and ignore proven car knowledge. having a huge wing on a front driver is beyond idiotic....

but srt 4s arent that slow either, and if this guy knows his car and sprays at the right time, the ls1 might have trouble in river city. but i keep the faith.
never underestimate anything....
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Cause they can beat your vette :::oh snaps:::
Statements like this just DEMAND respect. Looks like we have another candidate for the "Ignore list". LOL
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
hey you can do the same with your chevy or pontiac but in the end it'll still be...u guessed it...a chevy, or pontiac...
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Think about it...you really think a mercialago owner is gonna think any more of the car, no matter it's history, the tax on the lambo prob cost more than your car. The guy talked down on the neon, and I was hoping he'd realize that just as he looks down on the neon there are car owners with more expensive cars that will look down on his car just the same...think about it...actually I don't care anymore if you guys think about it or not, you can think what you want, i just find it funny you guys act like u own firarri's the way you talk down on other cars.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
lol, close minded?? Speak for yourself domestic fanboy. The srt can have staged mods stock, warrantied stock, and the stage 1 or stage 2 srt-4 will be as fast if not faster than your precious fbody that really isn't THAT fast stock anyway (and nevermind the lt1's those get left in the dust, and the srt's look better but that's just imho). I'd be willing to bet you can't drive for **** either bananahead...man your reply is the funniest reply I've read yet, I'm just playing along so you could hopefully get a clue as to how dumb those statements of yours were....and I'm supposed to be the close-minded fanboy, lol.
I think heres where your posts took a turn.If u look at my first post to the OP,i wasnt bashing the "Turbo inline 4".And you wont find me to be an ignorant guy,who cant recognize a fast car.No one here would flame you for stating the facts on an SRT4.Its when u insult our cars like we drive "snail like fossils".Keep it clean and youll be alot happier here.
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by six_string_wiz
I think heres where your posts took a turn.If u look at my first post to the OP,i wasnt bashing the "Turbo inline 4".And you wont find me to be an ignorant guy,who cant recognize a fast car.No one here would flame you for stating the facts on an SRT4.Its when u insult our cars like we drive "snail like fossils".Keep it clean and youll be alot happier here.

Well as a car enthusiast, to see ppl stoop to saying "oh but in the end it's still this or that car, and I wouldn't be cought dead driving it" is annoying as hell. And to top it off, being called an srt-4 fanboy, when I just recently started getting into these cars, took the cake. I'm not an ignorant guy as well, I may not know everything, but I have a good idea of what dif. cars are capable of, and the last thing I am is a fanboy of any one car. To read from a corvette owner "why would you waste your time" ticks me off because #1, abviously the car in question has something for this ls1, you have to admit an srt-4 is pretty decently fast, coupled with nitrous it'd be a good race, but to this vette owner seems like he's so up on his high horse he can't fathom that, all he see's is a neon, and that's pathetic, again as a car enthusiast I can't stand to see that kind of close-mindedness, and then I am the one who's being accused of being close-minded...but again, think what you guys want, i'm not here to win a popularity contest, I'm here cause I also like fbody's.



With all this aside though...I wonder if this guy's gonna even end up racing or not...
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Fair enough.I would like to point out the other vette owners post."Z O SICK".This particular guy drives a monster.If i was on the same road,i might just pull over and consider myself owned by default!He was chill and honest about the race.
I dont begrudge u for puttin up a fight,and i doubt the other guys will either.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Think about it...you really think a mercialago owner is gonna think any more of the car, no matter it's history, the tax on the lambo prob cost more than your car. The guy talked down on the neon, and I was hoping he'd realize that just as he looks down on the neon there are car owners with more expensive cars that will look down on his car just the same...think about it...actually I don't care anymore if you guys think about it or not, you can think what you want, i just find it funny you guys act like u own firarri's the way you talk down on other cars.
I agree with you to a certain extent.

Either way, everything aside, the guy needs to just race the neon and get it over with.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Think about it...you really think a mercialago owner is gonna think any more of the car, no matter it's history, the tax on the lambo prob cost more than your car. The guy talked down on the neon, and I was hoping he'd realize that just as he looks down on the neon there are car owners with more expensive cars that will look down on his car just the same...think about it...actually I don't care anymore if you guys think about it or not, you can think what you want, i just find it funny you guys act like u own firarri's the way you talk down on other cars.
If you didn't care what we think then you wouldn't keep posting and getting so worked up. Think about it. And it's Ferrari not firarri

We are on LS1tech here so you're fighting a losing battle. But I bet the general public looks at LS1 F-bodies as loud & fast RWD muscle cars while they see the SRT-4 as a FWD Neon on steriods.

And we all know what steroids do. They make you stronger but at the expense of shinking the testies

But if you like the SRT-4 then that's all that matters.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
If you didn't care what we think then you wouldn't keep posting and getting so worked up. Think about it. And it's Ferrari not firarri

We are on LS1tech here so you're fighting a losing battle. But I bet the general public looks at LS1 F-bodies as loud & fast RWD muscle cars while they see the SRT-4 as a FWD Neon on steriods.

And we all know what steroids do. They make you stronger but at the expense of shinking the testies

But if you like the SRT-4 then that's all that matters.

Troof on the neon on steroids part but shrinking the testies i disagree cause I don't buy a car to make my testies look bigger lol
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Troof on the neon on steroids part but shrinking the testies i disagree cause I don't buy a car to make my testies look bigger lol


I gotta give you 5 points for that one. Well done!
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Well as a car enthusiast, to see ppl stoop to saying "oh but in the end it's still this or that car, and I wouldn't be cought dead driving it" is annoying as hell. And to top it off, being called an srt-4 fanboy, when I just recently started getting into these cars, took the cake. I'm not an ignorant guy as well, I may not know everything, but I have a good idea of what dif. cars are capable of, and the last thing I am is a fanboy of any one car. To read from a corvette owner "why would you waste your time" ticks me off because #1, abviously the car in question has something for this ls1, you have to admit an srt-4 is pretty decently fast, coupled with nitrous it'd be a good race, but to this vette owner seems like he's so up on his high horse he can't fathom that, all he see's is a neon, and that's pathetic, again as a car enthusiast I can't stand to see that kind of close-mindedness, and then I am the one who's being accused of being close-minded...but again, think what you guys want, i'm not here to win a popularity contest, I'm here cause I also like fbody's.



With all this aside though...I wonder if this guy's gonna even end up racing or not...
Advice from a Ford guy on an LS1 site: Most guys here are very, very cool and knowledgable of cars...true enthusiasts. Some are ignorant fanboys. BUT this IS LS1tech. Show some respect and you will be respected in return. You've started off on the wrong foot here by insulting LS1s and showing you have a bunch to learn not only about LS1s, but about SRT4s. They are definitely NOT comparable performance-wise stock vs. stock.
I feel certain you were not so stupid as to think you could post insults directed at LS1s/Domestics/Muscle-type V8 cars here and be welcomed, so that would make you a troll. Change your attitude and keep in mind where you are and you'll find this forum to be very enjoyable and educating.

And by the way, In the end an SRT4 is still a Neon Skittle and I would NOT be caught dead in one.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
You think stock lt1's put 300 to the ground??
i thought they did the ws6 and the ss ive heard
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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i thought they did the ws6 and the ss ive heard

From what I've seen, the lt1's seem to make 250-260whp stock on the dyno's, the ls1's though, make 300whp pretty easy.




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