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Old 05-15-2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
OK...lets put a super charger on a stock z-28... that would be equal... right??
Oh ****...here we go again...

My 92 LX doesn't have an S/C and neither does my 85GT...Do you really want to go THERE? In anticipation of your next question...Yes, all my cars are street driven.

Come on man, the old "put FI on it and then see what happens" crap is ricer talk, and arguing or questioning what someone has, does or is like on the internet is just childish.
Old 05-15-2007 | 09:43 AM
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you guys need your own bitching thread on the up side of things good kill
Old 05-15-2007 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
Thats what I thought! Call me childish...AND a ricer! Your still on a LS1 site because....??????
...because MOST guys here are pretty cool, actually know cars and this site has the best street/kill section in alllll thhheeee wooorrrllllddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 05-15-2007 | 10:03 AM
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LS1's are getting to cheap to buy, if ya know what I mean..
Old 05-15-2007 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by slowmofo
LS1's are getting to cheap to buy, if ya know what I mean..
yea, i know what you mean.

Honestly, there are a few for sale here locally. One WS6 that looks pretty damn good...dark blue. I might stop and look at it closer today.
Old 05-15-2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
I guess Im to imature to understand, that I need a $40,000 status symbol to be intellegent....sorry guys. Im not ready for my midlife crisis yet!
My wife's car was $72,000 plus gas guzzler and she really loves her midlife crisis status symbol.
Old 05-15-2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jds99camaross
WHat?, Our ls1 in the 02 z28 with stock bottom end with ls6 stage 2 heads from patriot, and a .571 .573 cam from comp cams, pulled 415whp with a 3500stall, and headers and other people say that is low for a heads and cammed ls1. From what I have seen with a cam swap only people have dynoed 350-370+whp, depending on the tune, and the camshaft.

Cam replacement is an internal modification.....Bolt -ons are headers,intake,throttle body,pulleys,etc....anything that can be BOLTED or attached to the EXTERIOR of the engine block.....get it!!
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mustangs are the slowest performance cars on the road.
Old 05-15-2007 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
Well....looking at your sig, mustangs come with 267 rwhp, am I right??? Lets say I gave you $4000 tommorrow to go buy a kenne bell. how much power do you think you can make from your already low 267rwhp through a 5sp? Lets be outragous and say it gives you 150 rwhp. NOW... you have 417rwhp!!!!!
Thats what a cam only ls1 car makes, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SUPERCHARGER TO GET IT DONE!!!!! Your on a ls1 site search the cam only dyno #'s.

SO...If the "terminator" and the "gt500" make 430 rwhp, how would they stomp a bolt on ls1??? Bolt on ls1's making 420-450 RWHP??? BOLT ON MEANING ALL MOTOR, NO SUPERCHARGER??
if you gave me 4gs to put in my car i would buy nitrous cams heads and suspension parts. oh damn wait i already got that so i guess a forged bottom end and dual stage? your an absolute clown. ls1 is a nasty motor dont get me wrong but you seriously need to stop swingin from its nuts
Old 05-15-2007 | 03:46 PM
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is there such a thing as quarter life crisis? if so, I think I'm going through it...I need help!

Please, donate to the Nathan MODern Fund to help others just like you. The Nathan MODern fund, saving one quarterlife crisis at a time. But we need YOU!
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Originally Posted by Fastphilly
Cam replacement is an internal modification.....Bolt -ons are headers,intake,throttle body,pulleys,etc....anything that can be BOLTED or attached to the EXTERIOR of the engine block.....get it!!
I was talking about your FULL BOLT-ONs statement 360-370whp. That is really understated. ONCE AGAIN READ IT THIS TIME! I have seen people with CAM ONLY swaps pull that much WHP WITH ONLY THE CAM SWAP.
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
OK...lets put a supercharger on a stock z-28... that would be equal... right??
I hate ricer-statements like this
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
Well....looking at your sig, mustangs come with 267 rwhp, am I right??? Lets say I gave you $4000 tommorrow to go buy a kenne bell. how much power do you think you can make from your already low 267rwhp through a 5sp? Lets be outragous and say it gives you 150 rwhp. NOW... you have 417rwhp!!!!!
Thats what a cam only ls1 car makes, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SUPERCHARGER TO GET IT DONE!!!!! Your on a ls1 site search the cam only dyno #'s.

SO...If the "terminator" and the "gt500" make 430 rwhp, how would they stomp a bolt on ls1??? Bolt on ls1's making 420-450 RWHP??? BOLT ON MEANING ALL MOTOR, NO SUPERCHARGER??
I'm sure it took big $$$ for him to see 267rwhp I think they make 260 flywheel stock
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
its ok...Id be mad too if I had every bolt on in the book and still couldn't put down 270 rwhp!!
lol, and you're still trying to knock me for my car. It's ok buddy. Here, let me act like you... "Well add 65ci to my car, would that be fair?" I know how fast my car is/isn't, and it doesn't bother me the power it puts down. I bought the car with all this stuff on it, and it's still untuned. With LTs, 4.10s, and a good tune, it's gonna be ~285rwhp, and a fun little ride. And I wanted an LS1 WS6 in the first place, so you're not teaching me anything. Grow up.

Edit: And every bolt-on in the book? Are you serious?
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Originally Posted by 1QuickBlkZ28
I'm sure it took big $$$ for him to see 267rwhp I think they make 260 flywheel stock
intake/exhaust/headers.
Old 05-15-2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QuickBlkZ28
I'm sure it took big $$$ for him to see 267rwhp I think they make 260 flywheel stock
We already know new Edge GT's are weak sauce....There is no need to pour salt on the wounds.....
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I literally forgot what this thread was about... What happened to the guy pulling the stang with the truck? and as for the arguments, all cars need more than S/C's or any other parts to out run each other. You can argue parts to the damn moon, and still get outran by a Alcohol Dragster which has all the damn parts you are arguing about. Stop it already...
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
If you cant take it.....dont dish it out!! I dont give a **** about your car one way or the other. My point was, if you dont like smartass replies, dont leave smart *** comments.
And what exactly did I dish out? You said an LS1 was superior stock and mod-for-mod to the Terminator, GT500, and S281-E, and that's flat wrong. Oh wait, let's "add a blower" to the LS1
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Originally Posted by crazyfokker
Im gonna throw my .02 in here...yall can take it for what its worth. Ive drove about every kind of steeda, roush, gt500, and saleen you can think of, their all turds. Trust me...thats why I drive an ls1 car. Stock for stock the ls1 car will win hands down. Mod for mod the ls1 car will win hands down. Heavily modded mustang vs. bone stock ls1 they MIGHT be even.
That statement is just pure ignorance, I don't care if you work at a Ford dealership or not.
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crazyfokker....you are speaking on ignorance....

A Mach 1 is a mid 13 second car on average, A close run stock for stock with a LS1 F-body.....A Cobra you would get waxed.....Stop leg humping an obsolete motor like it's the end all of motors.I have an LS2 and it's already on the chopping block and it would destroy your LS1 mod for mod, and getting 417whp with cam and tune only is about dead on for an LS2 not your 1..

A cam only without a tune and supporting mods to go with it you will have a car running like complete ****...

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