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Old 06-05-2007, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmfan95
Semi-stock usually consists of built motor, bigger turbo, C16 gas, full roll cage, no interior.
LOL!!! There is nothing "semi stock" about a "BUILT" motor, bigger turbo, and a roll cage.
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Originally Posted by dsmfan95
Semi-stock usually consists of built motor, bigger turbo, C16 gas, full roll cage, no interior.
i wouldnt even go that far 16g good gas and proper supporting mods and can pretty much tear up some ls1's
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Originally Posted by B.W.
How about HP per camshaft? We got them whipped there, and it's an equally useless statistic.
Yea I always hated that statistic HP to liter. I mean just about everything that the Viper and C6 Z06 compete with beat it in that department but it is totally different on the track isn't it. Same thing when mustang guys rag on the LS1 guys, who ******* cares my mach 1 will run with an ls1 f-body but guess what the two engines cost about the same, weigh the same and get the same fuel economy so getting more out of a smaller package doesn't make it perform any better. And to the 2v GT guys that like to say that guess what idiots the LS1 puts out more per liter than you
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who ******* cares my mach 1 will run with an ls1 f-body but guess what the two engines cost about the same, weigh the same and get the same fuel economy so getting more out of a smaller package doesn't make it perform any better.
Actually, your 4v is much much larger, considerably heavier, puts out a little less power, and gets 'mabe' a little worse gas mileage. 28-30+mpg on the highway is not unheard of on a 6 speed lsx.
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Originally Posted by KingCobra02
LOL!!! There is nothing "semi stock" about a "BUILT" motor, bigger turbo, and a roll cage.
I'm glad you can pick up on sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by Chadder
Actually, your 4v is much much larger, considerably heavier, puts out a little less power, and gets 'mabe' a little worse gas mileage. 28-30+mpg on the highway is not unheard of on a 6 speed lsx.
An aluminum 4v longblock weighs (425lbs) within 25 pounds of a LS1 for the fuel economy I easily get 27 on the highway and remember my car is less aerodynamic and I'm running 3.55's with a .62 5th and 6spd F-body has an .5 6th with a 3.42 being the closest gear numerically to my own. Power yea you do beat me by a little.
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
takes a pretty good eclipse to beat down "many a LS1"...just how stock is semi-stock? I ask because I beat down a couple (not many...2 exactly) of semi-stock eclipses...with my diesel truck (Banks Monster Exhaust, six-gun).


Nice kill, OP.
obviously you dont know much about dsm cars do you? with a boost controller, exhaust, and a tune a 4g63t car will walk a stock ls1 car. i have a friend who does 12.5x with that setup in a full interior tsi talon. my car has a evo3 16g, turboxs mbc, turbo-back 3", greddy bov, and tuned with dsmlink it makes 320-330whp and weighs 2850 with full interior. you probably raced some n/a eclipses, they are weak as hell. btw, i will race your truck....
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
obviously you dont know much about dsm cars do you? with a boost controller, exhaust, and a tune a 4g63t car will walk a stock ls1 car. i have a friend who does 12.5x with that setup in a full interior tsi talon. my car has a evo3 16g, turboxs mbc, turbo-back 3", greddy bov, and tuned with dsmlink it makes 320-330whp and weighs 2850 with full interior. you probably raced some n/a eclipses, they are weak as hell. btw, i will race your truck....
I know a little about DSM cars but I'm far from being an expert. Not much interested in rice. So a Boost controller, exhaust and a tune is considered "semi-stock"...that answered my question. You are probably correct. I must have beat some n/a elipses with a big, huge, fart can.

btw, I'll race your car with my semi-stock terminator.
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
btw, I'll race your car with my semi-stock terminator.

idk dude he sounds pretttty legit if hes talking **** to your truck, look at!
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
I know a little about DSM cars but I'm far from being an expert. Not much interested in rice. So a Boost controller, exhaust and a tune is considered "semi-stock"...that answered my question. You are probably correct. I must have beat some n/a elipses with a big, huge, fart can.

btw, I'll race your car with my semi-stock terminator.
I'll race your "semi-stock terminator" just to see it run...

edit: also, you have to take me for a spin in it too
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Originally Posted by Creman
I'll race your "semi-stock terminator" just to see it run...

edit: also, you have to take me for a spin in it too
With the stock goodqueers that are on it now, it will definitely be a spin.
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Originally Posted by CaseyEaterMach1
An aluminum 4v longblock weighs (425lbs) within 25 pounds of a LS1 for the fuel economy I easily get 27 on the highway and remember my car is less aerodynamic and I'm running 3.55's with a .62 5th and 6spd F-body has an .5 6th with a 3.42 being the closest gear numerically to my own. Power yea you do beat me by a little.
Good points. But, still the 4v is freakin huge compared to a pushrod.
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
I know a little about DSM cars but I'm far from being an expert. Not much interested in rice.
oh snap! haha
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Originally Posted by Chadder
Good points. But, still the 4v is freakin huge compared to a pushrod.

True that, makes the phrases "smaller Displacement" and "Smaller Package" seem like oxymoron’s. Damn those giant heads well at least it reminds me of a big block.
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
I know a little about DSM cars but I'm far from being an expert. Not much interested in rice. So a Boost controller, exhaust and a tune is considered "semi-stock"...that answered my question. You are probably correct. I must have beat some n/a elipses with a big, huge, fart can.

btw, I'll race your car with my semi-stock terminator.
dude, you are a complete dumbass to just consider any japanese car "rice". my car was built in Ohio and cost me about a tenth of what yours cost. do a little research before you insult someones car, check out john sheperds talon on youtube and notice that is full interior street car running 7.6xs@180+. im not saying i like my car better than american muscle, but it definitely is not rice. so **** you!
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
dude, you are a complete dumbass to just consider any japanese car "rice". my car was built in Ohio and cost me about a tenth of what yours cost. do a little research before you insult someones car, check out john sheperds talon on youtube and notice that is full interior street car running 7.6xs@180+. im not saying i like my car better than american muscle, but it definitely is not rice. so **** you!
DSM's were built in Illinois.

PS: John's car isn't really a street car anymore.

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Originally Posted by capn smokey
dude, you are a complete dumbass to just consider any japanese car "rice". my car was built in Ohio and cost me about a tenth of what yours cost. do a little research before you insult someones car, check out john sheperds talon on youtube and notice that is full interior street car running 7.6xs@180+. im not saying i like my car better than american muscle, but it definitely is not rice. so **** you!

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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
takes a pretty good eclipse to beat down "many a LS1"...just how stock is semi-stock? I ask because I beat down a couple (not many...2 exactly) of semi-stock eclipses...with my diesel truck (Banks Monster Exhaust, six-gun).


Nice kill, OP.

What diesel ya got? We have a '06 PSD 6.0. Save the kitty delete, she's stock, but am looking at SCT programmer with either the Extreme Street Tune or The Looney Tune and a MBRP 4" straight back... Who says an 8000lb truck cant run low 14s and high 13s?

So whatcha got and got any mods on it aside from Gale's stuff on it?

The F250 has already burned quite a bit of rice, often times while pulling a trailer too! lol Nothing like being able to offer a guy to load his car onto your trailer so he'd get to his destination faster!

Originally Posted by capn smokey
dude, you are a complete dumbass to just consider any japanese car "rice". my car was built in Ohio and cost me about a tenth of what yours cost. do a little research before you insult someones car, check out john sheperds talon on youtube and notice that is full interior street car running 7.6xs@180+. im not saying i like my car better than american muscle, but it definitely is not rice. so **** you!

I drive JDM as my DD and he didnt tick me off, so why are you so butthurt? Afraid of being called rice? Hmmm if the shoe fits.....

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Originally Posted by capn smokey
dude, you are a complete dumbass to just consider any japanese car "rice". my car was built in Ohio and cost me about a tenth of what yours cost. do a little research before you insult someones car, check out john sheperds talon on youtube and notice that is full interior street car running 7.6xs@180+. im not saying i like my car better than american muscle, but it definitely is not rice. so **** you!
No, you are the dumbass.

Asian = rice. Get over it and stop crying like a little bitch because someone made fun of your ricer.

Nobody gives two ***** where your piece of **** car was built. Its a Japanese design with a Japanese engine. Get over it.

Lets all go cream out pants over john ******* sheperd because he runs 7.6 at 180MPH. Wow, I'm real impressed. No domestic car has ever done that in history. Imports must be so awesome to be able to do that

Do us all a favor and shut the **** up. You've said enough to prove that you are a typical ignorant riceboy. No need to make it any more obvious how stupid you are.
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
obviously you dont know much about dsm cars do you? with a boost controller, exhaust, and a tune a 4g63t car will walk a stock ls1 car. i have a friend who does 12.5x with that setup in a full interior tsi talon. my car has a evo3 16g, turboxs mbc, turbo-back 3", greddy bov, and tuned with dsmlink it makes 320-330whp and weighs 2850 with full interior. you probably raced some n/a eclipses, they are weak as hell. btw, i will race your truck....
There is always some friend of a friend of a friend who can beat stock LS1's all day with his modded up ricer.

I want you to take a guess how many people actually give a **** though. When you realize that the number is ZERO, do us a favor and stop talking out of your ***, nobody cares about your ricers.

Theres always some import troll who has to stir up touble in every damn thread.



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