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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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his car: 05 EVO 8, full bolt ons, AMS tune, boost controller set at 25lbs 330~ AWHP

my car: I/H/E and a cam, and a 2 year oild tune from speed inc 375whp



well last night my buddy brought out his evo, stock turbo car but mid 12's all day if he can drive it, and he can. the car 60fts a 1.6 like nothing. he was all pumped up to race me because im on a street tire with 10% tread and blah blah blah. either way i agreed because i wanted to see how bad id lose. first race i just spun to 6k in first and i got out of it because he was too far ahead. the second race i spun like a bitch the same way but i stayed in it just to see what happened, when i grabbed second i pulled up on him by a couple cars and stayed about 2 caras behind him all the way through the beginning of 4th gear, but i let off around 100~ or so. i was salty obviously so i had him run me from a 15 roll, just to see what would happen if i COULD hook up, from a 15 i pulled him through first, into second and into third. he ended up about ~2 cars behind me by the top of third when i let off, i saw a car turn down the road behind us and i got spooked.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Sounds like you need a tune-up and some tires. Do I understand correctly that you have intake, heads and exhaust? You should be able to handle him with some traction.

Good kill on the roll though.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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yeah something doesn't make sense... ls6 intake, heads?, exhaust, cam = 375????
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by u lose
yeah something doesn't make sense... ls6 intake, heads?, exhaust, cam = 375????
I agree. Should be closer to 475...especially with a decently-specd cam.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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+3 to those numbers not adding up. What size cam and what heads you running?
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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you should've at least pulled him a little bit more than that with heads/cam. Get that car retuned...if I were you and lived close to SpeedInc, I would've done it already!
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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maybe he means headers and cam
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Yeah... normally when people say "i/h/e," they are talking about intake/headers/exhaust. Honorable death OP
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Yeah... normally when people say "i/h/e," they are talking about intake/headers/exhaust. Honorable death OP
Key word is cam. LS1 heads are great from the factory. intake, head(ers), exhaust and cam should make 450+ with a decent tune. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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not with the stock heads with a good tune and a m6 id say 400-420
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
Key word is cam. LS1 heads are great from the factory. intake, head(ers), exhaust and cam should make 450+ with a decent tune. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Not quite. A very aggressive cam, possibly 425. H/C yes you should make 450+. From what I've been reading on here, is where I got this information.

Most cams you should make 375-410 is what I hear. Of course with an intake and exhaust.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
Not quite. A very aggressive cam, possibly 425.
Yeah his numbers don't sound right. I'm at 427 with I/headers/cam and there are plenty of cams out there that are more aggresive than this one. An M6 should have no problems hitting 400 and with heads then 450 easy.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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better tune and deff get some tires. that will change the outcome from a dig.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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Yeah his numbers don't sound right. I'm at 427 with I/headers/cam and there are plenty of cams out there that are more aggresive than this one. An M6 should have no problems hitting 400 and with heads then 450 easy.

to clarify im on an ls6 intake manifold, a TR 224 112lsa cam, STOCK HEADS, lid an exhuast, also a 2 year old tune from speed inc. the car made 375whp 2 eyars ago, i think itll put out around 400 next tune.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sloganish
to clarify im on an ls6 intake manifold, a TR 224 112lsa cam, STOCK HEADS, lid an exhuast, also a 2 year old tune from speed inc. the car made 375whp 2 eyars ago, i think itll put out around 400 next tune.
This clarifies it completely. I thought you had aftermarket heads. 375 cam only with a 224 and ls6 intake is not out of the ordinary.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
Key word is cam. LS1 heads are great from the factory. intake, head(ers), exhaust and cam should make 450+ with a decent tune. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
450rwhp is a little ambitious without heads and a decent sized cam.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Not to mention that adding more power without tires would not increase his chance from a dig.
On street tires, it takes me 2 gears to pull away from sti's, evo's and 3000gt's from a dig.
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