03 cobra VS 2001 SLP SS
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By all means I dont think any is say the Cobras are POS's but for what you probley owe on ur ride vs a newer car and power vs power ud loose getting a newer ride. Take money and mod the Camaro
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Originally Posted by night ghost
cobras are stock vs stock alot more bang for the buck. they come stock with a forged bottom end and better engineering. if you were to do a mod for mod comparison with a termi and a ls1, the cobra would come out on top for sure.
thank you,
michael
thank you,
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And for the people claiming that termi's run mid to low 12's while LS1 camaro's running mid to low 13's. You are somewhat right if you pick the best driver for the Termi and a average driver for the LS1.
Realistically you will not see that many people running mid to low 12's in a termi, just like you wont see that many people running mid high 12's in a F-body.
Bottom line is get what you like better because both cars can be fast!
P.S. The driver is a part of racing which can make up for the difference in the little hp advantage that the Term has.
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Originally Posted by khaos288
put the same size supercharger on an ls1 and a termi....game over
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
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Originally Posted by Slow01TA
Well, I was wondering how long it was going to take to bring the argument into the thread. Thats one of the dumbest arguments you can make...hands down. Thats on par with ricers hp/L argument.
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
+2 but the Tarheels SUCK!!! Im org. from NC and born in Chapel Hill so I can say the tarheels suck... LOL
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Originally Posted by Slow01TA
Well, I was wondering how long it was going to take to bring the argument into the thread. Thats one of the dumbest arguments you can make...hands down. Thats on par with ricers hp/L argument.
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
good post
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Originally Posted by 1fastTransAm
+2 but the Tarheels SUCK!!! Im org. from NC and born in Chapel Hill so I can say the tarheels suck... LOL
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Originally Posted by khaos288
put the same size supercharger on an ls1 and a termi....game over
Keep upping the boost on each one also and see which one goes boom first.
Termi's are built for boost, LS1/2..............not so much.
A LS1 can be modded well to keep up with a modded Cobra. However a S/C is not the safe or efficent way to do it.
I knew someone would throw out that dumb comment and you sir took the prise.
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Originally Posted by Slow01TA
Well, I was wondering how long it was going to take to bring the argument into the thread. Thats one of the dumbest arguments you can make...hands down. Thats on par with ricers hp/L argument.
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
Stock for Stock with equal drivers Camaro or T/A will LOSE
Stock for stock C5 ZO6 will win against an 03/04 Cobra.
After you start throwing mods on either it's anybodies game
Bottom line...If you don't respect an 03/04 Cobra...you've never raced one
Does anybody use the search button anymore? I know I've seen MANY MANY posts about this.
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yea this has been discussed millions of times on here. And for the people who said car and driver rates these cobras as low 13 second cars. Well car and driver also rates F bodies as running 13.5's and ive seen more then one F body get low 13's to high 12's. But yea its stupid, who says "ill race you ONLY if your stock"
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Originally Posted by jester177
if you are interested in a white cobra i will sell you mine for 23k with all the mods. btw the cobra would win.
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Just save the 10 grand diffirence in sticker price and put a super charger on an ls1 and see what happens or who wins. If you compare an adder car to a NA car then I would burn the damn ford if it couldnt out run a NA car. However, put a charger, turbo, or nitrous on a ls1 and then ask the same question.
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Looking only at performance- It'll run 11's realiably for $25,000 and almost no work.
To make an F-body run 11's reliably you're looking at full-bolt ons, and a decent cam, maybe a set of heads as well. You will also need a new rear end and a clutch or a built 4L60E. Add that all up and you're looking at about $20,000 more or less- assuming your F-body is an 02 (closest in age to terminators) and has similar mileage to a $24,000 Cobra.
With the Cobra you're paying about $5,000 morefor the pure speed. Almost everything else is subjective, only you can decide.
To make an F-body run 11's reliably you're looking at full-bolt ons, and a decent cam, maybe a set of heads as well. You will also need a new rear end and a clutch or a built 4L60E. Add that all up and you're looking at about $20,000 more or less- assuming your F-body is an 02 (closest in age to terminators) and has similar mileage to a $24,000 Cobra.
With the Cobra you're paying about $5,000 morefor the pure speed. Almost everything else is subjective, only you can decide.
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
Thats true for a STOCK cobra, but add 600 Dollars in mods and it will hang/beat a turbo/supercharged LS1. And with 600 bux the cobra is pushin over 500 to the wheels.
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This thread gives me a headache.
There are several of us here that have owned both cars...and we're
telling you that a Cobra is faster with both cars in stock trim. There
is no arguing that. It's fact. However, not all drivers and conditions
are equal, which is why fbodies win some and lose some to Cobras.
There are several of us here that have owned both cars...and we're
telling you that a Cobra is faster with both cars in stock trim. There
is no arguing that. It's fact. However, not all drivers and conditions
are equal, which is why fbodies win some and lose some to Cobras.
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Originally Posted by mpe488
Looking only at performance- It'll run 11's realiably for $25,000 and almost no work.
To make an F-body run 11's reliably you're looking at full-bolt ons, and a decent cam, maybe a set of heads as well. You will also need a new rear end and a clutch or a built 4L60E. Add that all up and you're looking at about $20,000 more or less- assuming your F-body is an 02 (closest in age to terminators) and has similar mileage to a $24,000 Cobra.
With the Cobra you're paying about $5,000 morefor the pure speed. Almost everything else is subjective, only you can decide.
To make an F-body run 11's reliably you're looking at full-bolt ons, and a decent cam, maybe a set of heads as well. You will also need a new rear end and a clutch or a built 4L60E. Add that all up and you're looking at about $20,000 more or less- assuming your F-body is an 02 (closest in age to terminators) and has similar mileage to a $24,000 Cobra.
With the Cobra you're paying about $5,000 morefor the pure speed. Almost everything else is subjective, only you can decide.
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Originally Posted by youngrigo
Now I don’t now everything about Termi's so let me see if I have this right. We all know that when making a lot of power with an F-body that you might / will have to change your rear end, clutch, etc. But what im getting out of this is that nothing else will have to be done to a term? No rear brackets to stiffen the IRS in those cars because I thought that they have wheel hope problems that could bust your IRS when launching? Will the clutch handle all that power? I think when making a lot of power with any car the drive terrain will have to be updated. But I may be wrong
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Originally Posted by youngrigo
I dont think $600 is going to get you over 500rwhp sorry buddy! O and $600 dollers could get a LS1 over 500rwhp. Nitrous = LS1's best freind
Dont get me wrong, cobra's are fast. But throw a shot on a stock ls1 and there you go for alot less.
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
The LS6 Z06 is only a mid 12 car, the best time I've seen was C/D's 12.4. It has more power, significantly less weight, better gearing, and better aerodynamics than the Cobra. And you're saying a Cobra can walk a Z06?
Motor Trend is showing a 13.12 @ 109.58 for a 2003 Cobra Convertible. On the same track, same day, a 2003 Corvette Convertible turned a 13.02 @ 109.59, and that's down 55hp from the mid-12 Z06.
Motor Trend is showing a 13.12 @ 109.58 for a 2003 Cobra Convertible. On the same track, same day, a 2003 Corvette Convertible turned a 13.02 @ 109.59, and that's down 55hp from the mid-12 Z06.
Mine went 12.7@113 stock... There are some on svtperformance that have run 12.4-12.6 stock.. And there a few in the 11's with the stock upper and lower pulley. Deffentially fast cars and the outcome between a stock SS and cobra would be about 2-3 cars in favor of the cobra
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How often do both cars racing have drivers with the same exact skill and make the perfect run everytime? Rarely. Streetfire videos and street races in general will usually see results that don't always add up on paper.
its not that difficult to mod your ls1 to be just as fast...
its not that difficult to mod your ls1 to be just as fast...
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Well of course the Cobra is faster, but it isn't that much faster STOCK FOR STOCK. All you guys keep saying "cobras SMOKE ls1's" etc...WELL NO ****, but they are pullied etc...
People don't know WTF stock means. I have guys tell me at the drag strip their "Bone stock 302" run's 7's in the 1/8 mile. When in reality it's H/C/I. lol
People don't know WTF stock means. I have guys tell me at the drag strip their "Bone stock 302" run's 7's in the 1/8 mile. When in reality it's H/C/I. lol