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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Good runs! I got a question though...Why does your 6.0L with a cam only make 386rwhp? My friends stock LS1 with a cam made 408rwhp...
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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I think he said that 386 was on a mustang dyno, but i'm not sure just how much lower a mustang dyno reads than a dynojet.... that could be the reason?
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SonofaBish
I think he said that 386 was on a mustang dyno, but i'm not sure just how much lower a mustang dyno reads than a dynojet.... that could be the reason?
On a regular dyno I would guess a mild-cammed and bolt-on LSX 6.0L would make between 420-450(or even higher)???? A Mustang dyno measures that much less? Kinda confused.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Sounds like you need some nitrous.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 93transam
On a regular dyno I would guess a mild-cammed and bolt-on LSX 6.0L would make between 420-450(or even higher)???? A Mustang dyno measures that much less? Kinda confused.
that what i was wondering... i wouldnt expect the mustang dyno to read that much less... that's why i just threw it out there.. i'm not real sure
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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nevermind................

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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a mustang dyno reads 6-10% lower than a dynojet, it is a loaded dyno. for comparison on a dynojet, my afr/f-13 m6 (steel n2o d/s, 9"w/4.11's) made 388rwhp n/a and 480rwhp on a TNT 100 shot. i havent had a chance to get back to a dynojet, but the only time i was on one it was just bolt-on's and put down 352rwhp(no way i have only picked up 36 hp). his car will put down at least 409rwhp on a dynojet if not more.....


and that cobra thats putting down 415rwhp on a mustang dyno is alot faster than 12.9's
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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i have also seen a KB cobra only make 535 and a 900rwhp(dynojet) supra only put down 822 on the mustang dyno.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
a mustang dyno reads 6-10% lower than a dynojet, it is a loaded dyno. for comparison on a dynojet, my afr/f-13 m6 (steel n2o d/s, 9"w/4.11's) made 388rwhp n/a and 480rwhp on a TNT 100 shot. i havent had a chance to get back to a dynojet, but the only time i was on one it was just bolt-on's and put down 352rwhp(no way i have only picked up 36 hp). his car will put down at least 409rwhp on a dynojet if not more.....


and that cobra thats putting down 415rwhp on a mustang dyno is alot faster than 12.9's
So at a 10% loss with the hp he quoted (386) he would put down about 428 (all things being equal besides the dyno). That sounds about right (if a little on the low side depending on the cam and tune and stuff).

Thanks for clearing that up Blake 01 WS6.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
and that cobra thats putting down 415rwhp on a mustang dyno is alot faster than 12.9's
A convertible? Ever driven one at that power level?

...and there is no direct correlation between a MD and a dynojet.
You can't simply factor in a percentage to come up with dynojet
numbers.

A very good friend of mine has a MD and a dynojet. My car has
been on them quite a bit.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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A convertible? Ever driven one at that power level?

...and there is no direct correlation between a MD and a dynojet.
You can't simply factor in a percentage to come up with dynojet
numbers.

A very good friend of mine has a MD and a dynojet. My car has
been on them quite a bit.

to my knowledge the vert's are only like 100lbs more than the coupes


there is no direct correlation between the two thats why i didn't give an exact correction factor. i have just seen the comparison's and that is what they usually range between. a mustang dyno actually measures torque instead of calculating it, and two different dyno's will give two different #'s thats why you need to baseline on one and compare from there on that same dyno. don't forget that a dynojet can be MANipulated more. since you have some #'s from both, please post them up so we can compare, if i had to put money on it i would bet that the mustang #'s are lower
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
to my knowledge the vert's are only like 100lbs more than the coupes
Even though they only weigh a "little" more, they just don't seem to
perform at the track for the most part.

Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
there is no direct correlation between the two thats why i didn't give an exact correction factor. i have just seen the comparison's and that is what they usually range between. a mustang dyno actually measures torque instead of calculating it, and two different dyno's will give two different #'s thats why you need to baseline on one and compare from there on that same dyno. don't forget that a dynojet can be MANipulated more. since you have some #'s from both, please post them up so we can compare, if i had to put money on it i would bet that the mustang #'s are lower
I agree with you on this.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
to my knowledge the vert's are only like 100lbs more than the coupes


there is no direct correlation between the two thats why i didn't give an exact correction factor. i have just seen the comparison's and that is what they usually range between. a mustang dyno actually measures torque instead of calculating it, and two different dyno's will give two different #'s thats why you need to baseline on one and compare from there on that same dyno. don't forget that a dynojet can be MANipulated more. since you have some #'s from both, please post them up so we can compare, if i had to put money on it i would bet that the mustang #'s are lower
Weight yes......but don't forget body structure.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Weight yes......but don't forget body structure.
don't tell zack that
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
He prolly had a pulley.
for wsure.. i talked to him..LOL he said he though he would pull me up top in 4th and 5th... but we were all up in 4th and it was dead even.. so heads here i come..
I lucky had someone following us .. and he was the one that said it was dead *** even throuth the whole runs..
cobra guy didnt want to run with a camara man however LOL...but

its ok i said, which ever car had the camara would lose ..

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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 93transam
StockZ, what are the specs on that cam you have because I figure you would be making more HP at the rear wheels with a 6.0L? A little confused, thought LS2's put out your RWHP stock.
599/601 max lift Voodoo 232/238 @50 i have stock heads and rockers ect.. new springs ect..

and numbers are on "THE HEARTBREAKER" mustang dyno .. i can get big numbers out of a dyno jet but WHY???

very happy for now.. already got a deal working on some heads in the next few months
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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good defeat, cant wait to hear about the next race
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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just to clarify...you "built" a 6.0 and it is under 400rwhp...wtf cam and bolt on 346's get better #'s than that
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