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Old 09-28-2007 | 09:22 PM
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FEARSM=520 rwhp 21 psi pump gas/560 rwhp 24 psi pump gas/600 rwhp 28 psi race gas SUPRA

RSKY=455 rwhp bone stock 2007 C6Z06

KILLEMALL=470-480 rwhp Kn filter/1.7 roller rocker/cat muffler delete 2003 Viper

RACE 1........

21 psi pump gas auto Supra ( aprox. 520 rwhp) and Viper line up at 60 mph..Beep beep beep, and the Viper immediatly jumps out 1-1.5 cars and holds till around 110 mph. Around 110 mph the Supra gets back to the Vipers rear and stays there till shut down at 140 mph..

Race 2........

Supra turns boost up to 24 psi ( aprox. 560 rwhp) and lines up with the Viper and C6Z06 at a 75 mph roll. Beep beep beep, and the Viper and Supra immediatly pull .5-1 full car on the C6Z06...

Then with the C6Z06 still behind at 100 mph the Supra pulls 1.5 cars on the Viper..At 120 mph the Viper closes the gap and is now on the Supras rear fender. This continues till 135 mph with the Viper on the Supras rear and the C6Z06 no were in sight..

140 mph..HOLY **** the C6Z06 is coming up at a good pace...At 150 PLUS mph the C6Z06 pulls the Viper and Supra by a car on the viper and a 1/2 car on the Supra...

A curve comes quickly and around 155 mph we all hit the brakes HARD..Luckily everyone is fine..But the Supra sustains some head gasket damage. Hopefully an easy fix..

Fun race and the .34 coeficient drag of the C6Z06 really showed it face at 140 PLUS mph verses the .39 for the SRT10 Viper..Not shore of the Coeficient drag of the Supra as it has many visual body mods.

There were multiple videos of these races and editing is already in progress.
Old 09-28-2007 | 09:36 PM
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Ahh added a cat delete huh? Cool.
Lets see some bad *** vids!!!
Old 09-28-2007 | 11:07 PM
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fun races.. last race I started late cause I didn't hear the honking, but I got in it a little after they took off, and I ended up passing them at 140-150.. vid should be up this weekend.. my video editor will post on youtube.
Old 09-29-2007 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RSKY
fun races.. last race I started late cause I didn't hear the honking, but I got in it a little after they took off, and I ended up passing them at 140-150.. vid should be up this weekend.. my video editor will post on youtube.
badass races out there man ill have the videos up within the weekend
Old 09-29-2007 | 05:04 AM
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FINALLY, a race that shows the Z06's true potential. Wasn't I the one that told you that a) it will take about 480 rwhp to be even and b) the Z06 will pull hard at 120+?..

Good death (once again, hehe)

Oh, and you want to hear something surprising? The Viper has BETTER aerodynamics than the Z06. I used to think the same as you and state that the Z06's .34 cd makes it the more aerodynamic car, but that is not true. Aerodynamics = cd * frontal area. The Viper is SO EVERY slightly more aerodynamic when you calculate the #'s.
Old 09-29-2007 | 08:04 AM
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FINALLY, a race that shows the Z06's true potential. Wasn't I the one that told you that a) it will take about 480 rwhp to be even and b) the Z06 will pull hard at 120+?..

Good death (once again, hehe)

Oh, and you want to hear something surprising? The Viper has BETTER aerodynamics than the Z06. I used to think the same as you and state that the Z06's .34 cd makes it the more aerodynamic car, but that is not true. Aerodynamics = cd * frontal area. The Viper is SO EVERY slightly more aerodynamic when you calculate the #'s.


Ok then i know why he came strong..

at 150 plus mph my rpm's were in the 5500 range and my car was loosing steam and I was too much of a wimp tp shift to 5th gear LOL...On the other hand the C6Z06 redlines at 7000 rpm and 5500-6500 rpm's is his sweet spot..I always notice that at the top of my gears the C6Z06 will still pull while I have to shift..


We just went again and from 50-100 the Z06 pulled me by a car...Then from 40-120 he pulled me by 1/2 a car..

Then from a dead stop to 125 mph I pulled him by a 1/4 car and then he let off due to oncoming traffic while I stayed in it till around 140 mph...

No vids of these races but fun none the less....
Old 09-29-2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GTO JIMMY
Ahh added a cat delete huh? Cool.
Lets see some bad *** vids!!!

cat and muffler delete brother..nonthing but good old american straight pipes
Old 09-29-2007 | 08:18 AM
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Hey Fadi...Heres the break down of my car so far with my FX2 circuit city timer....

You can see on my first outing trying to learn the car I sucked pretty badly..LOL

24 Aug ( kn filters and roller rockers)

1-12.7 @ 114
2-12.4 @ 115
3-12.4 @ 116
4-12.5 @ 115.6
5-12.4 @ 115

Man this car SUCKS I thought...Littel did I no that I was shifting when that damn yellow arrow appeared and really to early at 5500 rpm's or so

Tried shifting a lil later

6-12.4 @ 117.9

And then a lil later

7-12.37 @ 119.0
8-12.25 @ 119.3

And then on my 9th and final run shifting right before red line I clicked off a

9-12.08 @ 118.9 1.93 60 ft 7.9 @ 91.3 1/8
0-60 mph in 4.13

Very happy with the ET but dissapointed in the 119 max trapps I called it a night


25 AUG ( KN filters and roller rockers)

I baby shifted on these runs trying to see if I could hit 120 mph trapps

10-12.77 @ 115.6
11- 12.75 @ 118.1
12-12.43 @ 120.2

YEA BABY a 120 trapp..Not to shabby and I called it a night


1 SEP ( kn filters and roller rockers)

Tonight I wanted an 11 second pass and was all buisness


13- 12.5 at 115.9 getting warmed up
14- 12.4 @ 117.8
15-12.26 @ 119.2
16- 12.1 @ 120.5
17- 11.97 @ 121.3 60 ft 1.97 7.9 @ 93.5 1/8 0-60=4.05 !!!!!!!!! HELL YEA
18-12.1 @ 120.2
19-12.1 @ 120.1
20- 12.05 @ 122.2 ( highest mph yet)!!!!!!!!!!

21- 12.08 @ 121.4

Then I called it a night...

28 SEP immediatly after racing the C6Z06 ( kn filters and roller rockers plus cat/muffler delete)

22- 12.22 @ 119.6
23- 12.13 @ 118.8
24- 12.03 @ 120.6
25- 11.95 @ 121.9
26- 11.78 @ 124.0...0-60 in 3.98...1.95 60 ft....1/8 in 7.77 @ 95.3 mph
27- 11.92 @ 121.7
28- 11.92 @ 121.5
Old 09-29-2007 | 08:22 AM
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On run # 26 I hooked perfectly and didnt break loose on the 1-2 shift like I normally due...As perfect as could have been.. I tried to back it up on # 27 and #28 but hit the rev limiter on 27 and shifted a lil early on # 28..

Cant wait for the stock C6Z06 to start practicing and see what he can do at the same location with the same FX2 timer!!!!!!!
Old 09-29-2007 | 12:14 PM
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Now your ****** cookin!! Good runs. Is your car really loud now?
Old 09-29-2007 | 12:17 PM
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Go to a real track dude. Those numbers are nice, but you need to go to a real track and see what you can pull.

Anyways, good run. I think what you need to even up or maybe even inch ahead of a Z06 from a 50-150 race is a nice set of long tubes and a final tune which, like I have been saying ALL along, will put you at 480+ rwhp to make it a neck to neck race. Now are you starting to believe me?

But, an intake and tune on the Z06 and game over. An intaked/tuned C6 Z06 will yield 25-30 more rwhp over stock and yield 1-200 extra rpms. They are severly detuned from the factory.

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Old 09-29-2007 | 12:19 PM
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Sounds like a party!

You need to post a sound clip of the Viper.
Old 09-29-2007 | 12:24 PM
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Oh, and post the damn VIDEOS this time..
Old 09-29-2007 | 01:03 PM
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Nice cars and good races. That supras numbers are weak on 28lbs though.

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Oh, and post the damn VIDEOS this time..
Hey Fadi, hows the G-Car shopping?
Old 09-29-2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fadi
Oh, and post the damn VIDEOS this time..
Old 09-29-2007 | 03:10 PM
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God I Want To See Those Videos, That Sounds So Bad ***.
Old 09-29-2007 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 67maro
Nice cars and good races. That supras numbers are weak on 28lbs though.



Hey Fadi, hows the G-Car shopping?


Actually on race gas the Supra put down 628 rwhp and it's an automatic..Then with NOS he dynoed 700 rwhp...I think a 700 rwhp is still pretty inpressive in anyones book
Old 09-29-2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fadi
Go to a real track dude. Those numbers are nice, but you need to go to a real track and see what you can pull.

Anyways, good run. I think what you need to even up or maybe even inch ahead of a Z06 from a 50-150 race is a nice set of long tubes and a final tune which, like I have been saying ALL along, will put you at 480+ rwhp to make it a neck to neck race. Now are you starting to believe me?

But, an intake and tune on the Z06 and game over. An intaked/tuned C6 Z06 will yield 25-30 more rwhp over stock and yield 1-200 extra rpms. They are severly detuned from the factory.

Well unfortunetly theres no drag strip available unless I put my car on a boat and ship it to another island..And tha's not currently available for a few more months.

But based off my 11.9 best ET and 122 best trapp speed with the KN's and roller rockers..I think it's pretty safe to say that in bone stock form the car would have ran 12.0-12.1 as a best bone stock ET and 120-121 mph as a best bone stock mph..

Thats pretty much right on the money to what 75% of actual owners run..

As for the C6Z06..I'm gonna go dyno to see what power Im currently at..Im expecting 475 rwhp based on the ET/MPH gain, Ive seen so far...

A tune will be coming shortly..Then we'll run again..Ill post the results..And immediatly go out with my FX2 timer...

Im pretty interested to see what it will take to pull a C6Z06 to 160 mph..

As far as the 1/4 mile goes..Well Im already able to hang/pull them..

12.1 VS 11.8 on average is only a 3 tenth differance and really not a big deal..Ive already made that up..

But 0-150 mph!!!???

C6Z06=17.5 seconds best ever recorded bone stock
03 SRT10 =19.0 best ever recorded bone stock

1.5 seconds is aq LOT of realastate to make up LOL..Wait till you see the vid of the C6Z06 when he comes at 140 mph LOL..
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Im pretty interested to see what it will take to pull a C6Z06 to 160 mph..

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To actually be ahead at 160, it will take ~500 rwhp imo. To be even, I would say about 490 rwhp. You have about ~470 rwhp now and still over a car behind at 160 (given equal starts) so to make up that full car AND PULL some, it will take a significant power increase especially at those speeds. The Z06 is very strong from 120-160. The close races that I did have with some cars I was able to squeeze a victory at 120+ (Like the FGT)

Now, get the damn video up man, you are killing us here.

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Old 09-29-2007 | 06:25 PM
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To be honest I have to agree...

In the 1/4 mile I think you can get away with 470-480 rwhp and have dead even races...

But to 160 mph Im thinking 490 rwhp will keep you dead even..Wich makes since because the 2008 vipers are said to dyno around 525 rwhp and are a 1/2 second faster to 150 mph than the c6Z06 at 17.0 VS 17.5..

Then again Id be surprised if we dont see a 2008 dip into the 16's at 150 mph some time this year.



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