Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

350Z kill

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:53 PM
  #21  
ONEBADASSWS6's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Asmodeus
Beware of some of those 350's. I raced one with my H/C 99. It was from a 45 roll, he go the jump b/c he took off first.. I dropped to 2nd and started to pull him in but it was very slow.. I shifted to 3rd at 70.. I probably would have passed him, but the ****** broke the tires loose and came into my lane. I believe he had to be turbocharged to keep me from dog shitting on him.. then maybe sprayed it when he saw me pulling in anyways then lost it.

btw, you have some serious traction problems, and it's not from too much power if you're stock. I'm running on stock tires atm, and with full bolt ons and H/C/I, 1st is useless, and 2nd will haze them all the way through if I want to, but 3rd is going to grab.. and I'm up 150rwhp on you easy.
Sounds like something was seriously wrong with your car. 350Z's are slow as dog ****, the new ones gained a whole 20HP. Whoop de doo.

Not to mention the POS Nissan VQ makes the engine on my tractor engine look refined.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:26 PM
  #22  
DVan8504's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Sounds like something was seriously wrong with your car. 350Z's are slow as dog ****, the new ones gained a whole 20HP. Whoop de doo.

Not to mention the POS Nissan VQ makes the engine on my tractor engine look refined.
What do you consider slow as dog **** exactly? Stock, 03-06 350zs ran a tad ahead of the 99-04 mustang GTs. Stock, 07 350zs run a little slower than LS1s/little faster than 05+ mustang GTs. And with FI or nitrous, obviously power increases. It's quite ignorant to say a car is slow as dog **** without knowing anything about them.

Unrefined or refined, the 307hp and 27x tq out of a 3.5L V6 is pretty damn good.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:42 PM
  #23  
bmxer8699's Avatar
TECH Resident
15 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 985
Likes: 0
From: dfw
Default

sucks that you gotta use FI to make them go fast. id rather get a 500 kit of juice, and counter their 3 grand or more setup.

but good kill. i havent raced an 07 yet, although i would love to take from from a 20 punch tq conveter awwww
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:35 AM
  #24  
modmotor's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Sounds like something was seriously wrong with your car. 350Z's are slow as dog ****, the new ones gained a whole 20HP. Whoop de doo.

Not to mention the POS Nissan VQ makes the engine on my tractor engine look refined.
Actually its more than just 20 hp. Its a totally different motor alltogether, with no interchangeable parts. The power increase is throughtout the whole powerband. With a more linear curve and an increased redline, has enabled the 07's to hit 13.2 at 106mph.

I see you dont know to much about the VQ motor. The heads on that car, flow more than any Japanese car to date. How many cars can make 450rwhp an average in addtion to more torque at 8psi? No supra or skyline for that matter can. If the 07 are slow as ****, than the ls1 is pathetic!
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:27 AM
  #25  
ONEBADASSWS6's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by DVan8504
What do you consider slow as dog **** exactly? Stock, 03-06 350zs ran a tad ahead of the 99-04 mustang GTs. Stock, 07 350zs run a little slower than LS1s/little faster than 05+ mustang GTs. And with FI or nitrous, obviously power increases. It's quite ignorant to say a car is slow as dog **** without knowing anything about them.

Unrefined or refined, the 307hp and 27x tq out of a 3.5L V6 is pretty damn good.
The 07's aren't much faster at all. I've seen plenty of them get run down by 05+ Mustang GT's. I've been in plenty of 350Z's, none of them have ever impressed me.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:30 AM
  #26  
ONEBADASSWS6's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by modmotor
Actually its more than just 20 hp. Its a totally different motor alltogether, with no interchangeable parts. The power increase is throughtout the whole powerband. With a more linear curve and an increased redline, has enabled the 07's to hit 13.2 at 106mph.

I see you dont know to much about the VQ motor. The heads on that car, flow more than any Japanese car to date. How many cars can make 450rwhp an average in addtion to more torque at 8psi? No supra or skyline for that matter can. If the 07 are slow as ****, than the ls1 is pathetic!
Its rated at 307HP..being that its an odd number like that, its probably SAE certified HP. Therefore its not going to make any more than the actual 307HP. How is it a totally different motor?? Its still a trash compactor on steroids "VQ", thats would be like saying a 96 Mustang GT and an 04 Mustang GT have totally different motors.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:01 AM
  #27  
DVan8504's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
Default

You've had bad experiences with 350zs man. There are a lot of people that would speak against your claims, but I believe that maybe your personal experience with them has been unimpressive.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:09 PM
  #28  
Dynotune04's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
From: MA
Default

Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Its rated at 307HP..being that its an odd number like that, its probably SAE certified HP. Therefore its not going to make any more than the actual 307HP. How is it a totally different motor?? Its still a trash compactor on steroids "VQ", thats would be like saying a 96 Mustang GT and an 04 Mustang GT have totally different motors.
96 gt motor and an 04 gt motor are very different
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:37 PM
  #29  
PewterScreaminMach's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,628
Likes: 2
From: Austin, TX
Default

Originally Posted by dutinsss
how was the Evo?
The Evo was a blast because I had never really driven a turbo car before, and I loved the feel of that thing spooling up and sucking me back into the seat; definitely a completely different feel from the way my Z28 makes power.

I did think it felt a little cheap inside. Certain things felt flimsy to me if I remember correctly, which I wouldn't normally care about except for the fact that the car costs over $30,000. Not saying I wouldn't gladly drive one again, though.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 02:26 PM
  #30  
modmotor's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Its rated at 307HP..being that its an odd number like that, its probably SAE certified HP. Therefore its not going to make any more than the actual 307HP. How is it a totally different motor?? Its still a trash compactor on steroids "VQ", thats would be like saying a 96 Mustang GT and an 04 Mustang GT have totally different motors.
What are you talking about. Do you not understand that the new 07's use twin throttle bodies, have a higher redline, stronger block and slightly higher compression? They trap anywhere from 102-106mph. So let me get this straight. They can run low 13's (high 12's stock on drag radials), yet they're slow compared to ls1's? Another point I would like to add is, the engine code is totally different. 03-06's were VQ35de and the 07's are HR

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...ae007ff092.htm
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:45 PM
  #31  
Asmodeus's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,875
Likes: 1
From: Naperville, IL
Default

Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Sounds like something was seriously wrong with your car. 350Z's are slow as dog ****, the new ones gained a whole 20HP. Whoop de doo.

Not to mention the POS Nissan VQ makes the engine on my tractor engine look refined.

There is nothing wrong with my car lol. It traps over 120mph. This 350Z I ran into was not stock.. and yes, they can be fast with forced induction, which this one had to be, even possibly sprayed on top of it. How many 350Z's do you know that are spinning so bad at 70+mph that they slide into your lane like the one I mentioned? Try reading a little bit before opening your mouth.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 04:00 PM
  #32  
Finite1's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
From: AZ
Default

Oh well, wasn't an 07'....

What's different from an 06' Nismo 350z?

I raced a new 06' Nismo w/ intake from 70-135 and put what looked like 5+ cars on him. And he refused to go from a stop when we stopped and talked. The 07' probably would be pretty damn similar in the triple digit mph and suffer a similar fate.

Good kill OP.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 04:48 PM
  #33  
dutinsss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 0
From: Cairo, GA
Default

Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
The Evo was a blast because I had never really driven a turbo car before, and I loved the feel of that thing spooling up and sucking me back into the seat; definitely a completely different feel from the way my Z28 makes power.

I did think it felt a little cheap inside. Certain things felt flimsy to me if I remember correctly, which I wouldn't normally care about except for the fact that the car costs over $30,000. Not saying I wouldn't gladly drive one again, though.

Thats cool, i've never drivin a turbo car before, besides my bro's '98 dodge cummins. its a pretty quick truck though... it runs 13's and thats lifted a good bit with 37'' toyo mud terrains. but i love the sound of the turbo spooling and the cloud of black smoke bellowing out of his exhaust its tight lol
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:36 PM
  #34  
DVan8504's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by Finite1
Oh well, wasn't an 07'....

What's different from an 06' Nismo 350z?

I raced a new 06' Nismo w/ intake from 70-135 and put what looked like 5+ cars on him. And he refused to go from a stop when we stopped and talked. The 07' probably would be pretty damn similar in the triple digit mph and suffer a similar fate.

Good kill OP.
Not similar at all really. If the guy only mentioned an intake, then when he called his 350z a Nismo, he was just saying it had a Nismo CAI.

The 07s are .3 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile than the 03-06s.

Last edited by DVan8504; Nov 3, 2007 at 12:38 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:42 PM
  #35  
Finite1's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
From: AZ
Default

Naa, we popped the hood when we pulled over to chat. He had a aftermarket intake. The 350z had the nismo package, which I'm guessing is brakes/suspension, maybe different wheels? Whatever the case I was hoping it was an 07'.

Last edited by Finite1; Nov 2, 2007 at 11:47 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:59 PM
  #36  
ONEBADASSWS6's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by DVan8504
Not similar at all really. If the guy only mentioned an intake, then when he called his 350z a Nismo, he was just saying it had a Nismo CAI.

The 07s are 3 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile than the 03-06s.
3 seconds quicker huh?? I suppose they strapped a jet engine to the back??

Going from a 14.0 to a 11 flat?? Hahaha, wow.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:59 PM
  #37  
capn smokey's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: Okinawa, Japan/Fort Worth, TX
Default

Originally Posted by DVan8504
Not similar at all really. If the guy only mentioned an intake, then when he called his 350z a Nismo, he was just saying it had a Nismo CAI.

The 07s are 3 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile than the 03-06s.
That would make them 11 sec cars huh? 07 Zs are alot quicker than the earlier ones but still not ls1 status yet, they are about on par with a 3valve. I have driven many 350Zs and the 07 engine is way better, it has a stronger midrange and top-end that is noticeable.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:04 AM
  #38  
capn smokey's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: Okinawa, Japan/Fort Worth, TX
Default

Originally Posted by modmotor
What are you talking about. Do you not understand that the new 07's use twin throttle bodies, have a higher redline, stronger block and slightly higher compression? They trap anywhere from 102-106mph. So let me get this straight. They can run low 13's (high 12's stock on drag radials), yet they're slow compared to ls1's? Another point I would like to add is, the engine code is totally different. 03-06's were VQ35de and the 07's are HR

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...ae007ff092.htm
12s stock? I would love to see that, I know you love Nissans but give it up. And what was that video supposed to prove? VR4s are incredibly slow and *****s are extremely inconsistent so that didnt show us anything. Btw I am a Nissan fan, so no hate intended. I have had 2 s14s and I loved it.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:11 AM
  #39  
ponygt65's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by modmotor
Actually its more than just 20 hp. Its a totally different motor alltogether, with no interchangeable parts. The power increase is throughtout the whole powerband. With a more linear curve and an increased redline, has enabled the 07's to hit 13.2 at 106mph.

I see you dont know to much about the VQ motor. The heads on that car, flow more than any Japanese car to date. How many cars can make 450rwhp an average in addtion to more torque at 8psi? No supra or skyline for that matter can. If the 07 are slow as ****, than the ls1 is pathetic!
*** raises hand***
Originally Posted by ONEBADASSWS6
Its rated at 307HP..being that its an odd number like that, its probably SAE certified HP. Therefore its not going to make any more than the actual 307HP. How is it a totally different motor?? Its still a trash compactor on steroids "VQ", thats would be like saying a 96 Mustang GT and an 04 Mustang GT have totally different motors.
What he said...................... (below)
Originally Posted by Dynotune04
96 gt motor and an 04 gt motor are very different
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:18 AM
  #40  
ONEBADASSWS6's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Dynotune04
96 gt motor and an 04 gt motor are very different
There is a big DIFFERENCE between "very different" and "totally different". They are both modular motors, and many parts can be interchanged. I wouldn't say thats a completely different engine by any means.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 PM.