2002Transam vs SRT4
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Did you have your car tuned? I had mine tuned with a SAFC NEO when I put the other mods on. I put a 03 fuel rail, 255lph fuel pump, return line, and 750cc injectors in with the 02 housing and down pipe, so I needed to tune it inorder to get it to idle right.
What bov did you go with? I went with the Greddy Type S with JMB Hard Upper and Lower Pipes.
03 Srt4s have different injectors then 04 and 05s.... 04 and 05s cames with Stg 1 injectors. But for the complete Stg1 upgrade, you need to get the pcm. Stg2 cars really arent any faster unless they are properly tuned with a SAFC or DTEC. They run way rich with the factory tune, which makes them lose alil power actually.... Until tuned atleast.
From a dig, it all depends on what the Srt4 has for tires and his skills to depend on the outcome. I have an 05 Srt4 and with just a AGP WGA I got a 13.3@102 at MIR with 93 degree weather.... And I only dynoed 210whp with that setup.... On the lowside of what most dyno, but I could care less about the dyno numbers.
Now I have a 3" 02 Housing, 3" DP with cutout and some fuel mods running 21psi and have 301whp out of the stock turbo. If you go from a roll, it will be a closer race being you have an auto....
From a dig, it all depends on what the Srt4 has for tires and his skills to depend on the outcome. I have an 05 Srt4 and with just a AGP WGA I got a 13.3@102 at MIR with 93 degree weather.... And I only dynoed 210whp with that setup.... On the lowside of what most dyno, but I could care less about the dyno numbers.
Now I have a 3" 02 Housing, 3" DP with cutout and some fuel mods running 21psi and have 301whp out of the stock turbo. If you go from a roll, it will be a closer race being you have an auto....
I have seen many stage 2 SRT's dyno very very low for that reason...being way to rich up top. Although they have a pretty steady hp and tq curve...you can build a much quicker stage 1 and bolt on for the price of a stage 2 from the stealership.
I would suggest the owner of the F-body to go from a dig....neons only weigh 2,870 bone stock, and need a hell of a driver and sticky tires to go from a dig. I experianced everywhere from bone stock to 400whp out of my neon, and there aren't many cars that can touch it (4 cyl. wise) mod for mod and initial price. They are a dying breed of cars and you can buy yourself a fully modded big turbo for 15K-18K. Just the fact...having 400whp doesn't really matter if you need to ask for a 60MPH hit for a close race.
Wait NVR KNO.... so your running RC 750's on a stock turbo? What is your FPR set at...is it static or at a rising rate? I'm assuming you followed Aaron's mod list for 300whp off the stocker? Just seems like alot of fuel.....or your yanking tons of fuel out with the NEO....
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Yea from what I have seen around my area, most dyno mid to high 220s whp stock. Although most of them cant get out of the 14s either. Bone stock, I was able to get a 13.6@101 at MIR then went back and got the 13.3@102 with the WGA.
Did you have your car tuned? I had mine tuned with a SAFC NEO when I put the other mods on. I put a 03 fuel rail, 255lph fuel pump, return line, and 750cc injectors in with the 02 housing and down pipe, so I needed to tune it inorder to get it to idle right.
What bov did you go with? I went with the Greddy Type S with JMB Hard Upper and Lower Pipes.
Did you have your car tuned? I had mine tuned with a SAFC NEO when I put the other mods on. I put a 03 fuel rail, 255lph fuel pump, return line, and 750cc injectors in with the 02 housing and down pipe, so I needed to tune it inorder to get it to idle right.
What bov did you go with? I went with the Greddy Type S with JMB Hard Upper and Lower Pipes.
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I have seen many stage 2 SRT's dyno very very low for that reason...being way to rich up top. Although they have a pretty steady hp and tq curve...you can build a much quicker stage 1 and bolt on for the price of a stage 2 from the stealership.
I would suggest the owner of the F-body to go from a dig....neons only weigh 2,870 bone stock, and need a hell of a driver and sticky tires to go from a dig. I experianced everywhere from bone stock to 400whp out of my neon, and there aren't many cars that can touch it (4 cyl. wise) mod for mod and initial price. They are a dying breed of cars and you can buy yourself a fully modded big turbo for 15K-18K. Just the fact...having 400whp doesn't really matter if you need to ask for a 60MPH hit for a close race.
Wait NVR KNO.... so your running RC 750's on a stock turbo? What is your FPR set at...is it static or at a rising rate? I'm assuming you followed Aaron's mod list for 300whp off the stocker? Just seems like alot of fuel.....or your yanking tons of fuel out with the NEO....
I would suggest the owner of the F-body to go from a dig....neons only weigh 2,870 bone stock, and need a hell of a driver and sticky tires to go from a dig. I experianced everywhere from bone stock to 400whp out of my neon, and there aren't many cars that can touch it (4 cyl. wise) mod for mod and initial price. They are a dying breed of cars and you can buy yourself a fully modded big turbo for 15K-18K. Just the fact...having 400whp doesn't really matter if you need to ask for a 60MPH hit for a close race.
Wait NVR KNO.... so your running RC 750's on a stock turbo? What is your FPR set at...is it static or at a rising rate? I'm assuming you followed Aaron's mod list for 300whp off the stocker? Just seems like alot of fuel.....or your yanking tons of fuel out with the NEO....
Running the 750cc with a ton of fuel being taken out.... By the NEO. WOT at redline, the injectors duty cycle is only 30%.... Haha. It actually runs great, we didnt think it would at first, but James at DCR, good friend of mine, worked his magic on the car. I sorta followed Aarons mod list, but didnt know it at first. I was just buying the things I wanted for the car and then noticed he has a list of things to make the 300whp out of the stock turbo.... Me and him were pretty much on the same path.
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ive raced alot of stage 2's running 18-21 psi and never lost. their was a srt4 club at fortcampbell and i probly raced 5-6 diff stage 2s all was about the same outcome i would win by 3-4 car lengths. i ran 13 flat at the time at 107 they was running 13.3 to 13.5ish around 105
if their stock... wont even be a race if your car isnt a dog heh
if their stock... wont even be a race if your car isnt a dog heh
What was said.On street tires off the line they are not so great but a f body on street tires is hard to hook up also. We have some pretty done up local ones running low 12s and think one hit high 11s at local track. Goo mph also like near 120mph. These were not stage 2s more like stage 3s with the bigger turbos.To get good times at the track they run slicks not street tires.
I have seen stock ones run various times at the track. Depends on driver if he missed shifts,short shifts,don't rev it up high enough,don't powershift,etc. and they can have nasty wheel hop in stock form.Test drove one. It was fun car though. too bad they only made them in 4 door and now the calibur is guess the new replacement for them.But not sure if the 300 hp awd? calibur is available yet. That could be pretty quick vehicle.
I have seen stock ones run various times at the track. Depends on driver if he missed shifts,short shifts,don't rev it up high enough,don't powershift,etc. and they can have nasty wheel hop in stock form.Test drove one. It was fun car though. too bad they only made them in 4 door and now the calibur is guess the new replacement for them.But not sure if the 300 hp awd? calibur is available yet. That could be pretty quick vehicle.
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Depends on how good of a driver he is and if he is powershifting or not....
Friend of mine ran a 13.2 @ 104mph in an absolutely stock SRT4.
With that said, now he has intake, exhaust, boost controller, upgraded wastegate, and a couple other things....
He and I ran last night and from a 40 roll I put 1 car on him......from a 65 roll I put 1/2 car on him.
I've got Superchips tune, 4.10 gears, MTi lid, Random Tech Hiflow Cats (Gutted), Random Tech Y-pipe, Hooker Street Force Catback, and a couple free mods.
Friend of mine ran a 13.2 @ 104mph in an absolutely stock SRT4.
With that said, now he has intake, exhaust, boost controller, upgraded wastegate, and a couple other things....
He and I ran last night and from a 40 roll I put 1 car on him......from a 65 roll I put 1/2 car on him.
I've got Superchips tune, 4.10 gears, MTi lid, Random Tech Hiflow Cats (Gutted), Random Tech Y-pipe, Hooker Street Force Catback, and a couple free mods.
lol take that garbage elsewhere. a normal stock srt4 wont come clost to 13.2 at 104.
and the record of 13.4@104. ive seen way to many srt4 driven and non came close to that time so that had to have been done at like Atco or somewhere where everyone runs like 2-3 tenths faster lol
stage2 with extra he will probly beat your TA if it was stock. unless you had one of the few 12.9 sec freaks which you dont being an auto. esp if he has slicks your launch will have to be perfect.
ive ran a srt4 stage 2 a few times when i was stock and now. when i was stock we was side by side .
when i got my mods he added tune and few other bells whistles pushing the 18psi which is basically max for the stock turbo and he had slicks. and i would walk away from him running what i run now.
in the end just run him.
noone can ever give an accurate result of what will happen. noone knows how well your car runs or how well your friends does.
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lol take that garbage elsewhere. a normal stock srt4 wont come clost to 13.2 at 104.
and the record of 13.4@104. ive seen way to many srt4 driven and non came close to that time so that had to have been done at like Atco or somewhere where everyone runs like 2-3 tenths faster lol
stage2 with extra he will probly beat your TA if it was stock. unless you had one of the few 12.9 sec freaks which you dont being an auto. esp if he has slicks your launch will have to be perfect.
ive ran a srt4 stage 2 a few times when i was stock and now. when i was stock we was side by side .
when i got my mods he added tune and few other bells whistles pushing the 18psi which is basically max for the stock turbo and he had slicks. and i would walk away from him running what i run now.
in the end just run him.
noone can ever give an accurate result of what will happen. noone knows how well your car runs or how well your friends does.
and the record of 13.4@104. ive seen way to many srt4 driven and non came close to that time so that had to have been done at like Atco or somewhere where everyone runs like 2-3 tenths faster lol
stage2 with extra he will probly beat your TA if it was stock. unless you had one of the few 12.9 sec freaks which you dont being an auto. esp if he has slicks your launch will have to be perfect.
ive ran a srt4 stage 2 a few times when i was stock and now. when i was stock we was side by side .
when i got my mods he added tune and few other bells whistles pushing the 18psi which is basically max for the stock turbo and he had slicks. and i would walk away from him running what i run now.
in the end just run him.
noone can ever give an accurate result of what will happen. noone knows how well your car runs or how well your friends does.
So, did this race ever happen????
I would suggest the owner of the F-body to go from a dig....neons only weigh 2,870 bone stock, and need a hell of a driver and sticky tires to go from a dig. I experianced everywhere from bone stock to 400whp out of my neon, and there aren't many cars that can touch it (4 cyl. wise) mod for mod and initial price. They are a dying breed of cars and you can buy yourself a fully modded big turbo for 15K-18K. Just the fact...having 400whp doesn't really matter if you need to ask for a 60MPH hit for a close race.
Some kid around here bought a "built SRT4 with a 30R" but hes like 17 and doesn't know how to drive it yet (from what I've been told.) I'm no Neon expert but I would assume its 450+ whp. He's on a street tire, I'm on a M/T. Any idea what might happen here? Anything specific I should watch out for? My car is good for high 11s as it sits, I could spray it but i'd rather not.
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If he is a stage 2 you should take him. I raced one from a 40roll or so and I was in the very very bottom of 2nd and all I really had at the time was a cutout ,lid,UDpulley and I took him by about a 1 1/2 cars from 40 upto about 110 or so but he was right there but slowly slowly falling back but it took a while for that to happen. You should take him IF all he has is stage 2 mopar parts on the car
Goodluck and try to get a vid
Goodluck and try to get a vid
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I raced one from 45 to 110 back when I just had a lid, ported tb, and a cutout. No idea what "stage" the srt-4 was he just told me he was on 20 psi. When we both hit it I jumped ahead a little bit and stayed ahead by about 1 car til 110 but he was staying right with me good race, we ran twice second time I got him by like 3 but both races it almost seemed like he spun the tires at the start cause I would jump ahead and he was the one doing the 3-2-1 honk. How much boost do they have stock?