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Old 07-12-2003, 01:30 PM
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I'm going to be buying a 2000 Trans Am WS6 with the M6 transmission. I'm just currious what will this car do to new mustang GT. I know it will beat the **** out it, but by how much, and how bad would I lose to an 03 cobra, or would it be fairly close. And what would give the most power for about $600.
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Most FUN FACTOR: 4.10 rear gears.

New GT (stock) kills will be measured in units of bus lengths when driving the WS6.

Stock LS1 vs. Stock GT: At LEAST 1 bus length (you can even miss a shift in
the process).
Bolts ons vs. " : Up to 2 bus lengths.
Cammed + Bolts ons vs. " (I can speak from experience): A small convoy.

We must enjoy domination until 2005.
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I'm going to be buying a 2000 Trans Am WS6 with the M6 transmission. I'm just currious what will this car do to new mustang GT. I know it will beat the **** out it, but by how much, and how bad would I lose to an 03 cobra, or would it be fairly close. And what would give the most power for about $600.
Let's just say that against the GT you'll have enough time to stop and wait for a deer to cross the road and then start up again and still put a bus length on him.

I'd say, with the 600 bucks, do a cam. That's what I did when I got my car (even though I've had to wait to save up for the installation costs). Good luck with it!

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You will stomp a new GT into the ground. I wouldn't waste the gas personally. You'll lose to the '03 Cobra by two car lengths or so given equal driving skills. You don't stand a chance against a '03 Cobra with chip, pulley, & catback. It would be very ugly.

Here's how I'd spend your $600 on a stock '00 M6 WS6:

$129 - TSP lid
$50 - Holley Powershot Filter
$100 - MAF Ends
$300 - Drag Radials
$30 - Cut out
$5 - Fernco Hose
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$614 (tax not included)

Here's my reasoning for those mods:

It's common knowledge that the intake and exhaust (especially intake) is choked off on the LS1. You'll pick up some nice horsepower by removing the restrictions. The cutout will open up the exhaust end of things. There's not a whole lot you can do for $600. I would also do the FRA mod or by a FTRA kit. Don't forget to descreen your MAF.

I hope that helps.

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Then again you can buy a used nitrous kit for about $500. Instant low 12's on a 150 shot.
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I would race my friends cobra, and the only thing it has done is a very nice stereo, and my friend isnt that great of a driver, and he misses shifts all of the time.
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will i beat his cobra with a cam
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What year Cobra? Like I said, if it's an '03 with a chip, pulley, and catback it makes around 450rwhp. You can't touch that without more mods. I don't recall the cam only record. It's pretty quick. An '03 Cobra with those mods will trap around 122mph. Good luck!
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this cobra is completly stock
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Hello? Anybody home? What year Cobra. That makes all the difference in the world.
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its a 03
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and its weighed down with a bunch of audio stuff(JL 12W7's, 1000/1 amps, dvd player, playstation 2, and xbox.)
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and iv got a friend with a 97 what would happen there to
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Here's an idea. How about you just race them? You can "who would win" it to death but you're never going to know until you race.

FWIW, the '97 Cobras are horribly slow.
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Here's an idea. How about you just race them? You can "who would win" it to death but you're never going to know until you race.

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I friggin hate that "Could I beat this??, Could I beat that??" Just go race, dammit!!!

BTW If you haven't checked out www.installuniversity.com , it is a must to do so. Then do all the free mods on the site.
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I have an auto. With stage 2 TEA heads, and cam, every bolt-on including throttle body and free mods. LS1 edit on the way. No blower on my car. I don't need one. Neither does any LS1. with the displacement of 5.7 liters, if you have aftermarket valves and head work with a good cam, you'll be sucking so much air into the cylinders it will almost be like a supercharger (not quite but anyway), but with one mean lope. I Would say I am putting down around 450rwhp, off the bottle. Add that, I'm in the high 500's. Save your money for heads and cam. It's worth it. But if you do this put on a set of headers, a bigger or ported throttle body and an LS6 intake for maximum airflow and mad *** power. You'll kick the shiot out of an '03 Cobra.
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dragonz28 is dead on ***** right. Too bad he's talking about thousands of dollars.
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I have an auto. With stage 2 TEA heads, and cam, every bolt-on including throttle body and free mods. LS1 edit on the way. No blower on my car. I don't need one. Neither does any LS1. with the displacement of 5.7 liters, if you have aftermarket valves and head work with a good cam, you'll be sucking so much air into the cylinders it will almost be like a supercharger (not quite but anyway), but with one mean lope. I Would say I am putting down around 450rwhp, off the bottle. Add that, I'm in the high 500's. Save your money for heads and cam. It's worth it. But if you do this put on a set of headers, a bigger or ported throttle body and an LS6 intake for maximum airflow and mad *** power. You'll kick the shiot out of an '03 Cobra.
That's what Iwas sayin... forget about the bolton for now, do the big stuff like cam, heads, gears, n20... you won't regret it.



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