There is a local guy around here in a civic hatch. I unknowingly posted about him in the kills section a while back. The car used to be lime green. Now it has an ******* colored body kit literally stuck on with red bondo. It's not even sanded bondo. He used it as glue. The car smokes, has oil leaks, generally looks like

A friend of a friend knows him and said he would put $1k on a race with any street car in my town. I immediately ask about the car to find out they don't know.

I found someone who knows the car pretty well and he said it has an H22 motor swap (I think he said H22)and nitrous. I don't knows any other specs on the motor but it is reported by the same person to run high 10's to 11 flat.

Without being built, do any of you know what size shot could safely be run on that car? I'm thinkin of running him if he pulls the spray. Dunno about a grand though. I have no idea what an H22 is and would like for some people to chime in with opinions.

I have the mods in my sig and better tires now. Only had the car a month but already have 1/2 a driver mod also.

 

Generally you run a shot of nitrous that is equal to half of the power you make NA. Say he is built and makes 200hp he could run a 100 shot unless he is built for nitrous then god knows what size shot he could run.

 

Thats what I'm worried about if he wants to run on spray. Sounds like I need to pony up and put a small progressive shot on mine. Couldn't use it till third though... damn stock(worn out) suspension...

 

Run him, but get some nitrous just in case.

 

People willing to lay down a grand on a race fall into two categories. Retard or way smarter than the person they are racing. Which does the guy fit into? Is the $1000 dollar race with the car he shows everyone or a secret car. I know a guy that says the same thing. But when you show up he has a car that looks very similar to the one he showed you but its very different when you look close. Tires screwed to the wheel, cage(the other car also has one), the car you race is certified to 8.5 and looks really similar to his street car. At night nearly impossible to tell them apart unless you look at the details. Just a thought if he falls into the second category. If he's a retard take his cash and get more mods.

 

an h22 is a motor out of a honda prelude. knowing by experience of building and racing honda's i can tell you for sure by your mods, you will beat him. you cant spray too much on honda motors. the max ive used was a 100 shot. the car isnt a 10 second im giving it a very high 11 or low 12 if he is a good driver. just remember the rule with front wheel drive cars. race em from a dig.

 

100 safely but it were to be pushed, 125 shot MAX on a stock block H22.

If there is enough wieght taken out of it it could very well go mid 11's. Don't think it would go 10's unless it was a GUTTED **** on slicks with a short ratio final gear and trans AND A LARGER SHOT, Built head, and cams. For all that he would NEED a built block.

So unless it is a BUILT motor car on slicks, there is no way it is going flat 11 or high 10's for that matter, on the street. Plain and simple.

 

Thanks guys. This is inspiring some confidence. I don't like racing anything that I don't know much about. He doesn't even own another car. When he pulled up beside me at the gas station the other day it looked/smelled like he popped his hood and poured a quart of oil on a red hot header. I don't see something that gets driven that hard (and I mean hard) lasting on a big shot. When I cranked up the formy he was walking inside to pay. He gave me a 2 thumbs down so this ***** on

In all seriousness he looks like a typical ricer, only with enough mechanical knowledge to do an engine swap. Scruffy pubic hair looking beard, beanie that looks like a sock, multiple earings, and snakebites...

I just didn't want to go out and get spanked lol. I'm gonna wait until I can get a small dry shot or buy another set of rims and some ET streets. I don't foresee me getting out of the hole too much better than him. I went with Firehawk Wide Ovals for tires because they got really good reviews for the price. I haven't knocked the new off with a good burnout but they don't hook 100% till 3. I think with ET streets and/or a small shot I will make him look bad. Gonna try and get a video if this happens.

The guy setting up the race said the driver stopped texting him back when he told him I drove a firebird, so we shall see.

 

dude with the horse you are putting to the wheels you will kill this guy on the street. fwd cars like that that could even possibly get that low of a time will only get that time at the track because they have 0 traction when they have to launch at 10,500 rpms haha! but in all seriousness you have near 600 crank hp to his maybe 300? so unless he weighs half your car and really does have 300 horse on spray you will kill him dude. and i bet his 60 is worse than yours especially on the street. and after you beat him he will tell you he didnt launch at whatever rpm and he needs to launch higher. kids like you just described make me want to race him then go get a monster truck and run his car over.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4LiszO_efUo

I say run his ***. From a stop.

Make sure the money is held by an escrow buddy before hand because I would say he would try to run if he held it.

Get a 100 shot and embarrass him soo bad he shuts up.

 

why wouldnt you be able to spray before third Suspension wont stop you from spraying in first or second especially if you get a progressive controller if its a traction thing.

 

run his *** and destroy that little hatch. check you tube, check anything you can to see if he has any runs of his car online, and what he raced to get an idea. sounds like a stupid idea, but it saved me money and won me money a few times.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DGVD925hI2Q

Here is similar on a 50 shot stock motor.

He's probably got a big head from waxing stangs and thinks he can hang with a modded whatever.

 

an H22 swap in a lightweight hatch could be dangerous, but at the same time i have a hard time believing that someone with a poorly done bondo body kit would be too serious about performance. it's also arrogant/retarded to call out any car in town to a $1000 race in a NA Civic even with nitrous. from what you've said this guy sounds like he's full of ****, and my guess is that he probably won't even race you. if thats the case, then just GIVE him $50 and tell him to go get enough lime green spraypaint to make his bondo body kit match the rest of the car

 

HahahahaHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

No chance in hell that kind of car has ever seen 10s.

Honda's don't just waltz into 10s. You need a GOOD setup to go 10s. I'm talking full package, suspension, transmission, 450whp+ in a 2100lb car kind of deal. Not to mention you need at least a set of 24.5" slicks and a good bit of seat time to go that fast.

H22 with a 125 shot might be able to break 11.9s with slicks and all that good stuff. However, Honda's and nitrous do not like each other at all. Not to mention, on the street anything with enough power to go mid 12s or lower is not going to have traction worth a damn. From the way you describe that car it's not set up at all and will not be keeping up with you in the slightest.

I say lock it up and take his money and make your car faster with it.

 

i dunno man u can make a prelude a 12 sec cars easy, and throwing that motor into sumtin that is even lighter could cost u alot of money in the long run, ive seen people who have peice of **** cars that look ugly as hell that will stomp anything (sleepers), could just be a big trick to make some quick cash (i have seen it before) personally id say drop the bet to a couple hundred or lower, that way if you do get spanked and lose you pride youll have money to make your car faster lol, and dont let your pride get to u just cause a lil ricer is talkig ****

ps i once saw a POS neon bet a srt10 viper at the track and not a srt4 either

 

Great advice. Any numbers you would care to share about your honda? hp,et...Just curious.

 

Huh? Preludes are mid 15 second cars stock, they do not do 12s easy by any means.

Slapping the engine in a lighter car makes them do low 14ish. Adding a 100shot will put them in the 12s, but like I just said, nitrous + honda = stupid.

Here, think of it this way.

A Honda needs a 9 second trap speed to go mid 10s. I trapped at 102 back when I was still on a stock block and 7psi and went a whopping 14.1. If a Honda isn't on slicks, it isn't running crap for an ET.

 

motor swap plus a shot= 12 sec sounds pretty easy to me, and since u got the motor out might as well slap some new pistons and cams in there, you can make a civic a 10-11 sec car with the funds, the problem here is know whether or not the guy is running a stock block or not, and if its a race block there no telling what he can run on a good set of tires

 

Wish I did. Hasn't made it to the dyno or the track yet... 2 accidents (both not my fault) in a year makes it hard to get **** done. Only info I can give you is that it puts like 3+ cars on my stock LS1 from a 40-100 roll. Not saying much about ET/HP though. :/

black_dragon I'm afraid it's not as easy as just "swapping and squeezing" to go 12s in the Honda. Put a 100 shot and squeeze a kit with no engine management you can kiss that block goodbye.

Plus, read the OPs mods, he's going to need more than just cutting a 12 to have any shot at winning.