killed a turbo eclipse
killed a turbo eclipse a guy from school has a late 90's model turbo eclipse with intake, exhaust, and a greddy blow-off valve. he said he was running 12psi but that is in question. the first run was from a 40 mph roll and i pulled about 6 lengths then shut it down at about 120. then we ran from a dig and pulled about 8 lengths then shut down at 130ish. the third race was from a dig and i gave him 5 lengths and the jump, by about 130 i pulled about 1.5-2 lengths. after the race i had a tranny problem which i posted about in the manual tranny section.
I ran a built motor, cammed, turboed eclipse a few weeks ago pushing 20 psi through the hairdryer and I beat him BAD. He said he was having tranny problems but I think it was another excuse.
All the ricers thought it was fast because he ran low 13's but my car does low 12's, but of course they all said I sprayed even though I didn't have any bottles in my car!
All the ricers thought it was fast because he ran low 13's but my car does low 12's, but of course they all said I sprayed even though I didn't have any bottles in my car!
Given the mods and the PSI he was running it he would be lucky to get high 13's if it was AWD with a good launch.
Not true. He can run up to 15-17 PSI on the stock fuel pump depending on the condition of the car. With an upgraded pump he could run up to 20 if he wanted.
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More likely he was running about 14PSI. Basic free mods tend to hit about that level.
And those big dollar BOVs are a stupid waste of time and money and hurt performance more times than not. A stock 1g BOV being reciculated in the stock fashion would be better faster nd cheaper. I'll bet he vents the BOV to atmosphere for the cool sound. Gawd.
Good kill!
And those big dollar BOVs are a stupid waste of time and money and hurt performance more times than not. A stock 1g BOV being reciculated in the stock fashion would be better faster nd cheaper. I'll bet he vents the BOV to atmosphere for the cool sound. Gawd.
Good kill!
thanks guys. and the reason i say 12psi was questionable was because thats what he told me he was running but he knows pretty close to nothing about his car. he bought it from a guy that told him it had a complete greddy turbo system, but it was all stock except for the greddy bov. and it was front wheel drive. he's a cool guy, just a little clueless haha. i'll admit though, i've got a lot to learn about tuners as well
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Not true. He can run up to 15-17 PSI on the stock fuel pump depending on the condition of the car. With an upgraded pump he could run up to 20 if he wanted.
Given the mods and the PSI he was running it he would be lucky to get high 13's if it was AWD with a good launch.
Given the mods and the PSI he was running it he would be lucky to get high 13's if it was AWD with a good launch.
You guys prob have no idea what I'm talking about...lol...
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thanks guys. and the reason i say 12psi was questionable was because thats what he told me he was running but he knows pretty close to nothing about his car. he bought it from a guy that told him it had a complete greddy turbo system, but it was all stock except for the greddy bov. and it was front wheel drive. he's a cool guy, just a little clueless haha. i'll admit though, i've got a lot to learn about tuners as well
15-17 yes. but have you monitored the IAT's at that boost with a stock turbo and stock side mount intercooler? they go up significantly. And if you let the stock turbo max out it MIGHT hit 20psi. bottom line there is more power with a stock turbo and IC at 14 psi than 17psi. I had to prove all of this to one of my buddies that couldnt figure out why my talon tsi awd with ONLY a 16g turbo @ 10psi blew his off the road with full boltons and stock turbo running 17psi on the stock smic.
With anything setting I had, 12 15 18lbs, after a few pulls in a row the side mount was heat soaked anyway so it didn't really matter. A lot of people have made decent power on a 14B with more than 20 lbs, but at that point they have way more supporting mods than this kid.
In the end he could make more power, but it sounds like he doesn't know anything about the car. I give him a month before it is sold, as a POS DSM of course, or blown up.
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I thought this race was with a 2g...not a 1g...he's talking about the stock t25...
Possibly not true, depending on the turbo. The 14B is a fairly stout turbo. I ran around in my Laser at 18lbs for along time and didn't have a single problem. It ran quicker time at 18lbs than it did at 15lbs. Similair scenario with me was my buddy with a 16G at 12lbs and me at 18lbs. I put two cars on him up to 120. There are so many factors to look at that simply saying that X car went X speed with X boost is really not good info.
With anything setting I had, 12 15 18lbs, after a few pulls in a row the side mount was heat soaked anyway so it didn't really matter. A lot of people have made decent power on a 14B with more than 20 lbs, but at that point they have way more supporting mods than this kid.
In the end he could make more power, but it sounds like he doesn't know anything about the car. I give him a month before it is sold, as a POS DSM of course, or blown up.
With anything setting I had, 12 15 18lbs, after a few pulls in a row the side mount was heat soaked anyway so it didn't really matter. A lot of people have made decent power on a 14B with more than 20 lbs, but at that point they have way more supporting mods than this kid.
In the end he could make more power, but it sounds like he doesn't know anything about the car. I give him a month before it is sold, as a POS DSM of course, or blown up.
nope, he had the stock boost gauge
