Evo VS. Trans Am
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To clarify the boost numbers issue- understand that the stock Evo turbo's are quite small and will peak at around 30lbs of boost when they come on (on a stock displacement 2L motor). As rpms rise they cannot simultaneously maintain the boost level and airflow demands and the boost level tapers down as the engine approaches high rpms.
So at 3500rpms the turbo can make 23lbs but at 7000 its more like 15lbs. A larger turbo capable of more airflow solves this issue quite easily, but at the expense of a higher spool rpm threshold.
ONWDUMBASSWS6- you're quick to discredit David Buschur as a ricer f*g yet he's won countless races and built hundreds of winning race cars. He is a stand up guy and one of the top tuners in the country. Your inferiority complex/stupidity is really on display for all to see (again). What exactly have you done that makes you an expert on anything but ignorance (which you have evidently mastered).
So at 3500rpms the turbo can make 23lbs but at 7000 its more like 15lbs. A larger turbo capable of more airflow solves this issue quite easily, but at the expense of a higher spool rpm threshold.
ONWDUMBASSWS6- you're quick to discredit David Buschur as a ricer f*g yet he's won countless races and built hundreds of winning race cars. He is a stand up guy and one of the top tuners in the country. Your inferiority complex/stupidity is really on display for all to see (again). What exactly have you done that makes you an expert on anything but ignorance (which you have evidently mastered).
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ONWDUMBASSWS6- you're quick to discredit David Buschur as a ricer f*g yet he's won countless races and built hundreds of winning race cars. He is a stand up guy and one of the top tuners in the country. Your inferiority complex/stupidity is really on display for all to see (again). What exactly have you done that makes you an expert on anything but ignorance (which you have evidently mastered). ![Engarde](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies3/engarde.gif)
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If I don't want to respect "tuner" (ricer) like Buscher I don't have to, epecially not on the LS1Tech. Get a life and stop trying to force your opinions on others. If you want to talk about ricers, go to a different forum.
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Wow, why don't you swing his nuts some more. I don't have any repect for him personally, and I could really care less what he's done with 4 cylinder improts. What is it around here with you import trolls trying to force people to respect cars and individuals that we don't care about?? Thats great that you love him so much, I couldn't give less of a rat's ***. Why can't you just leave well enough alone and let people have their own opinions??
If I don't want to respect "tuner" (ricer) like Buscher I don't have to, epecially not on the LS1Tech. Get a life and stop trying to force your opinions on others. If you want to talk about ricers, go to a different forum.
If I don't want to respect "tuner" (ricer) like Buscher I don't have to, epecially not on the LS1Tech. Get a life and stop trying to force your opinions on others. If you want to talk about ricers, go to a different forum.
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I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I just tell it like it is. This is a Domestic car forum, of you want to brag about how great imports are go somewhere else. The concept isn't that hard. I know the thigns I'm talking about mosly from forst hand experience, you are obviously the one with the lack of knoelwdge. You, like many other members of the import brigade on here, go by word of mouth. If someone says its true, must be. The majority of the things I talk about I've seen first hand. I'm not blind to reality, just because someone says something is true I don't belive it until I've personally seen it happen.
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Seriously, read his reply above, and then look at page 2, to realize what a hypocrit and liar he is, and how he thinks he's so clever trying to fool everyone, just look at page 2 after reading his reply, it's comical, aspecially the part about us going by word of mouth after I showed em related links and dyno charts even, in his twisted head I'm the one going by word of mouth.
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Yeah but you really have to weed out the false bs info from the truth. And some people will pull anything out of their ***. I offered proof, quote's, dyno sheets, and website's (page 2 where he tries to call me a liar), and you have onedumbassws6 still saying it's wrong and/or inflated or the boost was raised and it's all a lie, lol. And then it's rice this, rice that.
Seriously, read his reply above, and then look at page 2, to realize what a hypocrit and liar he is, and how he thinks he's so clever trying to fool everyone, just look at page 2 after reading his reply, it's comical, aspecially the part about us going by word of mouth after I showed em related links and dyno charts even, in his twisted head I'm the one going by word of mouth.
Seriously, read his reply above, and then look at page 2, to realize what a hypocrit and liar he is, and how he thinks he's so clever trying to fool everyone, just look at page 2 after reading his reply, it's comical, aspecially the part about us going by word of mouth after I showed em related links and dyno charts even, in his twisted head I'm the one going by word of mouth.
All you do is sit there and try to convince everyone how awesome imports are. I don't buy half the bullshit you post, and you get all bent out of shape. Too damn bad.
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I've provided you with proof, dyno sheets, and you can look on youtube and anywhere if you're still in denial, there are tons of video's of the stock evo's dyno numbers and how pig rich the a/f's are from the factory.
Again I ask you, what are you doing on here spewing bs when you obviously don't know what you're talking about?? Why do you always jump into any thread with the mention of an evo, dsm, sti, or any import and reply with such utter bullshit, do you think you won't get called on it, you think we're all as ignorant as you?
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Well don't forget that 102whp was in context to a specified RPM (7k) compared to stock- It's not a 102whp gain across the whole RPM range. Considering everything that must be done nowadays to meet CAFE regulations it isn't unbelievable at all IMHO.
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Like I said, and I'll enbolden what some may have missed:
And also I wrote (this is all on page 2):
That's how they were able to gain the 100+whp at 7k rpm's, because the boost would fall off in the higher rpm range without a boost controller.
http://buschurforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20922
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Very impressive gains when you compare where we started just 48 hours ago with this car. We have gained 102 whp at 7,000 rpm and 81 ft lbs of torque at 7,000 rpm .
The peak number gains are 81 whp and 25 ft lbs.
The peak torque numbers have not gained much because the peak boost is very close (within a pound) of the factory 22-23 psi peak.
I am very impressed so far. Really need some tuning software to really wake the beast.
In 48 hours we have gone from bone stock to now having our BR 3" True Dual catback exhaust, BR upper i/c pipe, BR airfilter kit, BR 3" offroad pipe and BR manual boost controller on the car.
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Very impressive gains when you compare where we started just 48 hours ago with this car. We have gained 102 whp at 7,000 rpm and 81 ft lbs of torque at 7,000 rpm .
The peak number gains are 81 whp and 25 ft lbs.
The peak torque numbers have not gained much because the peak boost is very close (within a pound) of the factory 22-23 psi peak.
I am very impressed so far. Really need some tuning software to really wake the beast.
In 48 hours we have gone from bone stock to now having our BR 3" True Dual catback exhaust, BR upper i/c pipe, BR airfilter kit, BR 3" offroad pipe and BR manual boost controller on the car.
That's how they were able to gain the 100+whp at 7k rpm's, because the boost would fall off in the higher rpm range without a boost controller.
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I wanna meet ONEBADASSWS6 in person.. i bet he's one of these funny mother ******* that never shuts up and you just can't stop laughing when you're around him.... ![Thumb](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/thumb.gif)
I agree with some of your comments and disagree with others - and think that some of your posts are unnecessary... but i do thank you for standing up against the import nut-huggers... I don't know **** about anything that's not a mustang or f-body, so i can't say much to import lovers... except, if you think your car is fast, lets see what you got!
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I agree with some of your comments and disagree with others - and think that some of your posts are unnecessary... but i do thank you for standing up against the import nut-huggers... I don't know **** about anything that's not a mustang or f-body, so i can't say much to import lovers... except, if you think your car is fast, lets see what you got!
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I wanna meet ONEBADASSWS6 in person.. i bet he's one of these funny mother ******* that never shuts up and you just can't stop laughing when you're around him.... ![Thumb](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/thumb.gif)
I agree with some of your comments and disagree with others - and think that some of your posts are unnecessary... but i do thank you for standing up against the import nut-huggers... I don't know **** about anything that's not a mustang or f-body, so i can't say much to import lovers... except, if you think your car is fast, lets see what you got!
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I agree with some of your comments and disagree with others - and think that some of your posts are unnecessary... but i do thank you for standing up against the import nut-huggers... I don't know **** about anything that's not a mustang or f-body, so i can't say much to import lovers... except, if you think your car is fast, lets see what you got!
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