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Old 07-07-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
well numbers do not do justice, that car pulls like a train and that cam might be big for a 346 but by no means bigh for a 427. i would say that is a small cam for a 427.
I was about to say... I plan on putting a bigger cam than that in my 346 so in a 427 its not big at all.
Old 07-07-2008, 01:18 PM
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It may not seem big for a 427, but man does that thing sound wicked in person or on video. It has some major lope sound to it.
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Here are the exact specs of my Katech cam:

Duration @ .050 - 220/244
Lift - .615/.648
LSA - 110

I like the cam a lot. Like I said, I just got done racing another cammed C6 Z06 and that one put down 525 rwhp on the SAME MUSTANG DYNO that I put down 508, and I pulled him pretty good. Just goes to show ya that peak numbers don't mean all that much..
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Thanks for posting the specs of your cam. The specs really show how well the intake side of the heads flow. Not much lift or duration needed to make power over stock. The exhaust side obviously needed a lot of help. A lot more lift and duration. I wonder how a set of LS7 heads that had the exhaust side reworked to improve flow would do on the dyno. (How much more power could be made by improving exhaust flow over stock and using a more balanced cam)
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Fadi any idea what the cam specs are on the 525 rwhp Zo6 you raced ??

If I had to guess I would bet more lift and duration on the intake, creating more PEAK rwhp, and not enough lift or duration on the exhaust side thus killing his power under the curve. (At least compared to yours)

Fadi you seem to have the best of luck with cars. The torquer III cam really turned your car into a beast. Just wondering though, does Katech offer a similar cam with more duration and/or lift on the intake side for more Peak power (as if you need it) ??
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Originally Posted by Fadi
Nope, it is a pretty big cam actually. It's the Katech Torquer cam. Specs are online, but I believe it is somewhere around the 232/244 range.

I guess I just have a slow car..
So yes it is a small cam for your 427. I would dare say a ***** cam at best!!! That thing needs a WAY bigger cam to maximize the displacement of your engine. The damn video wont play for me.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Fadi any idea what the cam specs are on the 525 rwhp Zo6 you raced ??

If I had to guess I would bet more lift and duration on the intake, creating more PEAK rwhp, and not enough lift or duration on the exhaust side thus killing his power under the curve. (At least compared to yours)

Fadi you seem to have the best of luck with cars. The torquer III cam really turned your car into a beast. Just wondering though, does Katech offer a similar cam with more duration and/or lift on the intake side for more Peak power (as if you need it) ??
Doug, you are right on the money with everything you said regarding the 525 rwhp Z06!! That cam that he has in it is Vector's cam that has been modified to more lift / duration on the intake side. I don't know it's exact specs of the cam but I will find out. Kirk wont be happy when he hears the results of that race, hehe.

As far as Katech offering a cam with more duration / lift on the intake side for more peak rwhp, I am not exactly sure although if I had to guess, I don't think they do.

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Originally Posted by CuNfUzEd


So yes it is a small cam for your 427. I would dare say a ***** cam at best!!! That thing needs a WAY bigger cam to maximize the displacement of your engine. The damn video wont play for me.
Well, from the way it lops at idle, I thought it was a big cam..

Not sure why the video wont play for you. It is playing OK for me..
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Holy Phuk the way you walked him it looks like he forgot to hit the gas pedal. Great kills and good luck the next time, all though I don't think you'll need much luck.
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It would be nice see a good set of reworked, or aftermarket cast ls7 heads that have exhaust flow or lack of flow issue corrected. The intake side flows well and makes excellent power with .600 lift and 220 duration. (drives like stock) The exhaust side needs so much help 64x lift and 244 duration. Rework the exhaust and make more power without going with all the extra lift and duration. JMO. DD with 530 rwhp ideling like stock. Can it be done ?
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i dont think he will hang even at his highest setting. i think you will eventually pull away
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Do fast 350Z's exist?
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Nice kill, Im sure thwt ruined his day lol A win is a win man. your right numbers for the most part arent the number 1 thing. Nice car
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Do fast 350Z's exist?

Yes sir in our dreams and there prayers
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Hey fadi check out the dyno section there is a link with ported ls7 intake i think one guy there gained like 30+ horsepower from the port and retune.
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Originally Posted by Fadi
Well, from the way it lops at idle, I thought it was a big cam..

Not sure why the video wont play for you. It is playing OK for me..
It still has quite a bit of overlap (which is where your getting your lope from) but its definatley not a big cam for an LS7. It probably makes for a nice driver though with some good midrange. Good street cam. If you were going for all out power though I would look into something more like this:

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=845&catid=44

That would make some nice #'s and would sound wicked. You would need to gear it though for sure. At the least some 4.11's would be in order.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Rework the exhaust and make more power without going with all the extra lift and duration. JMO. DD with 530 rwhp ideling like stock. Can it be done ?
Well, I think the only way to go about that is to go with aftermarket heads or port the exhaust side of the head. If minor driveability is all I am sacrificing by going with a cam like Katech's which has a lot of duration and lift on the exhaust side, I am OK with it. Afterall, who would mind this sound:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lPAnUXPB_GM

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Originally Posted by rocksws6
It still has quite a bit of overlap (which is where your getting your lope from) but its definatley not a big cam for an LS7. It probably makes for a nice driver though with some good midrange. Good street cam. If you were going for all out power though I would look into something more like this:

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=845&catid=44

That would make some nice #'s and would sound wicked. You would need to gear it though for sure. At the least some 4.11's would be in order.
Ya, I am already bitching about the bucking the car receives from my cam now, I can only iamgine a beast of a cam like that. I wouldn't go with gears because that would take away from highway acceleration, which I love most.

I really like the cam that I have in now. Only complain I have is the severe bucking at 1500 rpms or below. But, how often is my car at 1,500 RPMS or below?..
Old 07-09-2008, 01:59 PM
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like I said at SVTperformance sick car man the Z350 Should sell his car and buy ZO6
lol
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That Z06 sounds sooooo good! Nice kill.



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