Everyone has posted the same thing. The MS4 is not a good daily driver cam and for $700 you won't get all the supporting mods to even make it somewhat work for your application. You aren't listening so people are going to start getting sarcastic. If you want the MS4 get it and put it in your car. Just remember what was said here and I'm sure the four other forums you have been on asking for advice. Advice was asked for, it was given. Hell I even posted links to let you read and do a little research on your own and help you make a good choice. What you do next is up to you.

 

oh my bad by 700$ i ment only on the cam guys sorry 4 the miss understanding. all i need is intake and i have all the breathing mods. but will have full bolt ons before i put it in and head work will be done .i just wanted 2 know if its possible 2 run it as a daily driver. can u guys give me a list of stuff i need 2 be able 2 dd it. thanks my bad 4 the mix up.

 

THE MS4 HAS NO LOW END TORQUE, it doesn't make good power until somewhere like 4000 rpm's and you have a stock converter. the other thing is you need to rev it to like 7000 rpm's for the peak #'s you know what that equals in a stock bottom end car, a rod out the side of the block or a broke valve. this cam was meant for BIG discplacement motors. why are you so intent on this cam it's not a good DD cam IT'S TOO BIG most people think the bigger the cam the bigger the #'s the better it is and to a certain extent this is true but your heads are only gonna flow so much for example if your peak flow is at .600 lift why go with a .630 lift cam your just risking the valve hitting the piston or even breaking a spring and dropping a valve. look at the torque and horsepower curves when your buying a cam you want the torque to stay broad thoughout the power range and you want the horsepower curve to raise as fast as possible with engine speed and typically peak around 6000 and 6500 on a stock bottom end car any higher than this and your gonna risk piston to valve clearence or slinging a rod out the side of the block neither of those is good and you will be investing a hell of alot more than $700 to buy a new short block or if you get lucky you might be able to rebuild the stock one either way is VERY exspensive.

 

ok i should prolly let u guys in on the whole story know. ok im getting it rebuilt and forged. but am buying parts i want on it now one at a time and thats why im so insitent on this cam. plus lots of people say it can be daily driven but i have a very good plan dont think im gonna buy it and go straight 2 put it in. but the car will be a daily driver and the cost 4 the rebuild is free my dads doing it. so now what do u think i want 2 buy this know but dont know what the supporting mods should be im getting it at texas speed 4 699$ package. i just want 2 now the pros and cons of having this cam put in the right way. like will it ever be not that hard on my car with the right mods. provided by u guys thanks. and sorry if this gets annoying.

 

If you are staying with stock cubes (346) then stay away from the MS4. Simple.

 

 

buddy i just explained evrything you need to know about that cam, IE it's junk unless it's in a race car and even then there are much better cams you can buy why do you think everyone tries to get away from that cam your cars gonna be a dog outta the hole (much worse than stock) unless you put a 4200 rpm stall converter. does that sound good as a DD everytime you have to take off 4200rpm that **** will get old not to mention how much gas is and with that combo it will be a gas HOG and it most likely won't hook for **** on the street with that kind of stall in it. but your probably gonna get that cam and find out the hard way so i'll just save my breath.

 

oh k um thinking of how stupid this could be but please clarify. im currently under the belief that its possible because of a couple of vids on u tube and that fordetr guys camaro that its possible please send me some clearity. man i hate 2 be the stupid one. lol

 

then lets start off with what kinda discplacement are you gonna be runnin?

 

for that cam your gonna need at least a 408 to run decent and that cam is prolly still to big even for it.

 

thank u and which ever one u guys think is best but i want 2 get the parts first and creat a sickening beast that is in every day use 2 im not all that familiar with the products 4 serious mods right know but am very willing 2 learn and want 2 understand the situation then do it the right way my tranny is gonna be built 2 and ive always wanted a 4000 stall im kinda weird like that and just love the rush from my car i just need alot more rush now plus cars out here are very very competitive. i would really apreciate it if u cleared the **** out of my brain. lol

 

I think your better off with a smaller cam for a DD, you will still make nice power with a small cam...plus talk about going thru valve springs with the ms4 on a daily driver!

PS donkey dick cam is probably the funniest thing ive heard related to a car

 

Agreed with Manalishi, i think you need to understand what you need to make a cam work for a DD before you order anything. I'm guessing you did not click on the links Manalishi provided?


Good Kill

 

Lol, dude did u even bother to glance at the section you were posting in