Panhard Bar question
12-20-2008, 12:00 AM
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Panhard Bar question Do i need an adjustable panhard bar ? BMR is having a pretty good sale and i want one for a chrismtas present to myself 
my car is not lowered nor do i plan on doing so. i will upgrade the suspension but to the stock height. is it really worth the extra money to go adjustable ? or should i save afew bucks and buy the plain jane non adjustable
my car is not lowered nor do i plan on doing so. i will upgrade the suspension but to the stock height. is it really worth the extra money to go adjustable ? or should i save afew bucks and buy the plain jane non adjustable 
12-20-2008, 06:40 AM
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One thing to consider is whether or not you car's rear end is exactly centered "as-is". I've looked at MANY F-bods over the years, and each one is a little different....Production tolerances, you know.
An adjustable arm, while a few dollars more, will give you that extra bit of ability to fine tune.
An adjustable arm, while a few dollars more, will give you that extra bit of ability to fine tune.
12-20-2008, 09:25 AM
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I would never buy non-adjustable aftermarket pieces when adjustable ones are available. You are already spending extra money, spend a little more for the flexibility. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
BTW, my car was off-center by 13/16" to the passenger's side (totally stock, not lowered or altered in any way). It is now perfectly centered after installing and adjusting my UMI #2021 PHB.
BTW, my car was off-center by 13/16" to the passenger's side (totally stock, not lowered or altered in any way). It is now perfectly centered after installing and adjusting my UMI #2021 PHB.
12-20-2008, 10:19 AM
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Hello,
If you do not plan on lowering the car, running a 315 wider or wider tire or doing any type of auto cross or road racing the non-adjustable panhard bar would be just fine.
We have ours on sale as well for $63.99 and it can be picked up from one of our dealers listed below.
www.byunspeed.com
www.ws6store.com
www.stranoparts.com
www.speedinc.com
if you have any questions please ask. thank you!
Ryan
If you do not plan on lowering the car, running a 315 wider or wider tire or doing any type of auto cross or road racing the non-adjustable panhard bar would be just fine.
We have ours on sale as well for $63.99 and it can be picked up from one of our dealers listed below.
www.byunspeed.com
www.ws6store.com
www.stranoparts.com
www.speedinc.com
if you have any questions please ask. thank you!
Ryan
12-20-2008, 11:18 AM
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One thing to consider is whether or not you car's rear end is exactly centered "as-is". I've looked at MANY F-bods over the years, and each one is a little different....Production tolerances, you know.
An adjustable arm, while a few dollars more, will give you that extra bit of ability to fine tune.
An adjustable arm, while a few dollars more, will give you that extra bit of ability to fine tune.
I have yet to see a Factory F-body with a centered rear.
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12-22-2008, 07:28 PM
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I would never buy non-adjustable aftermarket pieces when adjustable ones are available. You are already spending extra money, spend a little more for the flexibility. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
BTW, my car was off-center by 13/16" to the passenger's side (totally stock, not lowered or altered in any way). It is now perfectly centered after installing and adjusting my UMI #2021 PHB.
BTW, my car was off-center by 13/16" to the passenger's side (totally stock, not lowered or altered in any way). It is now perfectly centered after installing and adjusting my UMI #2021 PHB.
12-22-2008, 09:15 PM
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you dont necessarily need to be lowered to need one, like other mentioned, sometimes rears are not straight, so you need one. and if you get the double rod ended on it keeps the rear from moving left and right on turns and acc. and its basically necessary if you lower the car, so if you ever plan on doing it id say get the double adjustable/double rod ended one.
12-22-2008, 09:33 PM
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I would never buy non-adjustable aftermarket pieces when adjustable ones are available. You are already spending extra money, spend a little more for the flexibility. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
BTW, my car was off-center by 13/16" to the passenger's side (totally stock, not lowered or altered in any way). It is now perfectly centered after installing and adjusting my UMI #2021 PHB.
BTW, my car was off-center by 13/16" to the passenger's side (totally stock, not lowered or altered in any way). It is now perfectly centered after installing and adjusting my UMI #2021 PHB.
12-23-2008, 01:20 AM
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you dont necessarily need to be lowered to need one, like other mentioned, sometimes rears are not straight, so you need one. and if you get the double rod ended on it keeps the rear from moving left and right on turns and acc. and its basically necessary if you lower the car, so if you ever plan on doing it id say get the double adjustable/double rod ended one.
12-23-2008, 05:39 AM
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and yes you are right about a dd, i dont dd my car but i drive it often. but i still got a double rod end because thats what came with my shocks/springs when i bought them. lol.
metal on metal has less flex then poly on metal. thats the only difference.
12-23-2008, 07:44 AM
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I'd go with the adjustable, if I were you. If you plan to start adding more suspension mods in the future, then a scale and square should be in your future as well. As said in previous posts, the rear end is not always perfectly centered coming straight out of the factory. It would be better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and need it. BMR makes great products and has great customer service. Either give them a call or call us (we are a dealer for BMR).
12-23-2008, 08:05 AM
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Hello,
Rod ends are designed to eliminate bind and allow the panhard to move freely where as a polyurethane bushing can restrict the movement. We recommend to use a panhard with rod ends also when changing pinion angle since the road ends will allow the rear end to rotate with out putting pressure on the bushings or mounts.
Hope that helps!
Ryan
12-23-2008, 12:01 PM
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Hello,
Rod ends are designed to eliminate bind and allow the panhard to move freely where as a polyurethane bushing can restrict the movement. We recommend to use a panhard with rod ends also when changing pinion angle since the road ends will allow the rear end to rotate with out putting pressure on the bushings or mounts.
Hope that helps!
Ryan
Rod ends are designed to eliminate bind and allow the panhard to move freely where as a polyurethane bushing can restrict the movement. We recommend to use a panhard with rod ends also when changing pinion angle since the road ends will allow the rear end to rotate with out putting pressure on the bushings or mounts.
Hope that helps!
Ryan
12-23-2008, 04:07 PM
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This is essentially true, however if you have an adjustable panhard bar with the poly ends, all you have to do is loosen the locknuts on the panhard bar before you set the pinion angle. With the nuts loose, the panhard bar can "rotate" to accomodate the pinion angle change. Then MAKE SURE to tighten the locknuts back up on the panhard bar when you're done.
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bringing this back up....I have a BMR double adjustable panhard bar, the bushings are shot so I ordered some from summit racing....They are energy suspension bushings that measure 1.75in diameter on the part that actually goes into the bar....my question is, they look too big. Are these the right size or did I get sent the wrong ones...they are for a 98-02 Camaro but are the sizes the same for a stock bar vs. my BMR?