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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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hey guys i was planing on purchasing a tq arm. my question was does a non adjustable tq arm make much difference over stock or do you only benefit from the adjustable ones? my goal is a fast street car. probably wont replace rearend. maybe build it...with 4:10's and a M6 i dont want anything too much that'll break the rear, but something better then stock! so please let me know if you think a regular tq arm will help, and what effects an aftermarket arm help with?
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Hello, the stock torque arm is made from stamped steel. Our non adjustable or adjustable torque arms arm made from 1.25" x .120" dom steel tubing. Strength wise there is no comparison between a stock arm and an aftermarket one. The purpose of the adjustable arm is to be able to adjust your pinion angle. It has no added strength over a non adjustable arm. If you lower your car you will need the adjustable version to reset you angle. If you have any questions please give me a call. Our tech dept is open mon-fri 8:30 am-6:00 pm est.
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a non adjustable torque arm made a world of difference on my car.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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well ive done the heater hose mod, and qa1 coilovers in the front lowered 3/4 of an inch. do i need an adj tq arm with that?
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I would go ahead and get the adjustable arm. Your pinion angle is more than likely off and if you decide to ever go with a different spring in the rear you are going to need the adjustable arm. No sense in buying it twice.
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Originally Posted by armintheman
hey guys i was planing on purchasing a tq arm. my question was does a non adjustable tq arm make much difference over stock or do you only benefit from the adjustable ones? my goal is a fast street car. probably wont replace rearend. maybe build it...with 4:10's and a M6 i dont want anything too much that'll break the rear, but something better then stock! so please let me know if you think a regular tq arm will help, and what effects an aftermarket arm help with?
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Hello,

There are a few different types of torque arms to choose from!
First there are i few things that i would need to know to be able to assist you better,

1 Does it see any track time?

2 Do you have aftermarket control arms on the car now?

After I have the following info i will be able to get you going in the right track.

IF there is anything else that you need feel free to ask or call the tech department we will be more than happy to help.

Thanks Again!

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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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yes i do have lca's and lca relocating brakets, it will be going to the track a few times but not a track car.
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Hello,

There is a aftermarket Torque arm that is not adjustable which is part #2206. And there is also a adjustable torque arm part #2205 that will probrobly be what I would recommend you just for future reference if you are planing on building the rear. The adjustable torque arm will cut down on wheel hop when on the throttle and cut down your 60ft times. Below I have a link to show the torque arms and you can see the difference from your stock and modified.

http://umiperformance.com/2206?category_id=130
http://umiperformance.com/2205?category_id=130

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while the ta will do a lot. BMR is wrong when they say you need it when you lower your car. thats flat out wrong. the only thing you NEED when you lower your car is an adjustable PHB to center the rear end
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Originally Posted by twitchtwice
while the ta will do a lot. BMR is wrong when they say you need it when you lower your car. thats flat out wrong. the only thing you NEED when you lower your car is an adjustable PHB to center the rear end
Is this true? I have read on here that you need the adj one if your car is lowered. What is the point of the adj T/A then???
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Originally Posted by armintheman
hey guys i was planing on purchasing a tq arm. my question was does a non adjustable tq arm make much difference over stock or do you only benefit from the adjustable ones? my goal is a fast street car. probably wont replace rearend. maybe build it...with 4:10's and a M6 i dont want anything too much that'll break the rear, but something better then stock! so please let me know if you think a regular tq arm will help, and what effects an aftermarket arm help with?
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M6=death of a 10 bolt

Get an adjustable torque arm, most people will agree on why buy aftermarket suspension if it isnt adjustable, little bit more money and your set for future mods
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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Is this true? I have read on here that you need the adj one if your car is lowered. What is the point of the adj T/A then???
it's strongly recommended you get adj. PHR when lowering the car, but first I've seen of adj. T/A for lowering.

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Originally Posted by twitchtwice
while the ta will do a lot. BMR is wrong when they say you need it when you lower your car. thats flat out wrong. the only thing you NEED when you lower your car is an adjustable PHB to center the rear end
Actually they are correct... you don't NEED the adjustable torque arm at all. But the torque controls the pinion angle, the pinion angle changes when you lower the vehicle. The adjustable torque arm will then allow you to readjust the pinion angle once the vehicle has been lowered. So yes you are correct, you do not need the adj. torque arm... but from a performance stand point it is recommend to achieve the best performance from the vehicle. So you are both correct.. based on the customers goals I would recommend the adjustable as well.

I see where you are coming from and I hope my explanation helps

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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Actually they are correct... you don't NEED the adjustable torque arm at all. But the torque controls the pinion angle, the pinion angle changes when you lower the vehicle. The adjustable torque arm will then allow you to readjust the pinion angle once the vehicle has been lowered. So yes you are correct, you do not need the adj. torque arm... but from a performance stand point it is recommend to achieve the best performance from the vehicle. So you are both correct.. based on the customers goals I would recommend the adjustable as well.

I see where you are coming from and I hope my explanation helps

Ryan
exactly, but they made it seem like it was something you absolutely must have in order for you to lower the car. i dont have one on mine and everything is great for me. but im a corner carver

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but the rod ends do wear out and make more noise right?
(on the adj. arm)
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but the rod ends do wear out and make more noise right?
(on the adj. arm)
The adjustable torque arms have rod EYES, not rod ends.. these are solid rod ends that allow no movement. They will not wear and as long as the bolts are kept tight there will be no noise.

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oh ok thanks Ryan!
Now I have to rethink my decision! haha!

oh hey on your TA mount crossmember there is adjustment even
with a non adj. TA right?
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Originally Posted by twitchtwice
while the ta will do a lot. BMR is wrong when they say you need it when you lower your car. thats flat out wrong. the only thing you NEED when you lower your car is an adjustable PHB to center the rear end
Your pinion angle does change when you lower a vehicle. You can't change your pinion angle without an adjustable arm. You can buy a torque arm relocation crossmember and use a non adjustable torque arm and adjust the front and change your pinion angle that way but thats not the correct way to do it. Thanks for your opinion.
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Originally Posted by TRANS-DAD
oh ok thanks Ryan!
Now I have to rethink my decision! haha!

oh hey on your TA mount crossmember there is adjustment even
with a non adj. TA right?
Are you referring to the torque arm relocation kits? Where the torque arm mounts to the transmission crossmember?
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Originally Posted by UMI Performance
Are you referring to the torque arm relocation kits? Where the torque arm mounts to the transmission crossmember?
yeah, there's adjustment on the crossmember if your TA wasn,t adjustable
isn's there ?
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