panhard adjustment issue OR ?
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Not make a mess, he was content with the information and said he got his question answered. This is just a friendly discussion on the topic. But like you said to each their own, neither of us are going to sway each other either way. Maybe people can read our discussion and make up their own minds.
I am about to do this also. I have adj LCA and panhard. My car is so low it is a pain to jack up and down. I am going to drive the front onto ramps. Jack the rear up just a little lower than level. Put jack stands under the rear frame. Adjust as needed. Then jack up on the diff to get the weight onto the chassis and measure. Repeat as needed. Would this not work the best?
I am about to do this also. I have adj LCA and panhard. My car is so low it is a pain to jack up and down. I am going to drive the front onto ramps. Jack the rear up just a little lower than level. Put jack stands under the rear frame. Adjust as needed. Then jack up on the diff to get the weight onto the chassis and measure. Repeat as needed. Would this not work the best?
The only way that would be possible is if the body was held stationary. You can take the panhard bar off of the car and move the body side to side in either direction without the car coming off of the jackstands. We just had one of our employees car up on the drive on lift and we took the panhard off of the car. Put an adjustable one and adjusted the bar. The car had full weight on the suspension and it did not scoot the tires or try to come off of the lift. We got the body centered, tightened the jamb nuts and thats was it. No raising or lowereing of anything and only had to do it once.
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Hello, Its no so much a theory but things we have learned from past experience. In this case I would place the jack stands under the frame and let the rear end hang freely again and make my adjustments that way. You can then place the jack under the rear end and jack the rear end up to simulate the suspension is loaded and see where the rear end is. Either may with the control arms may work but this is just how we would do it.
Hope that helps,
Ryan
Hello, Its no so much a theory but things we have learned from past experience. In this case I would place the jack stands under the frame and let the rear end hang freely again and make my adjustments that way. You can then place the jack under the rear end and jack the rear end up to simulate the suspension is loaded and see where the rear end is. Either may with the control arms may work but this is just how we would do it.
Hope that helps,
Ryan
Hope that helps,
Ryan
Ya I think that is the best way also. It is the easiest for us guys doing it without a lift. That is why i said I would put the car onto jack stand a little lower than level. Then when i jack it on the diff to simulate loaded suspension the car would be level. Should make it nice and easy to let it down again to do adjustments.
Sometimes it takes arguments like this to get more people opinions on how they have done it or think it should be done. But long and short is mine is UMI parts so I guess I will listen to Ryan
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UMI and BMR... thanks! Like our teachers always told us "There is always more than one way to solve a problem."
I already have the body on jack stands for my exhaust project. So I will be attempting the method of raising the axle until the suspension holds the full weight. Measure... then drop the axle to adjust. (My two cents: adjusting the par loaded shouldnt hurt anything... but adjusting the bar should be much easier when its only moving a free hanging axle.)
I still have a question on the "measure" step. I know this step should be easy, but I was curious what landmarks you guys use to measure... (btw, I have the wheels off...)
I feel like Im just swagging it with a tape measure. Is there a good trick to getting it dialed in?
I already have the body on jack stands for my exhaust project. So I will be attempting the method of raising the axle until the suspension holds the full weight. Measure... then drop the axle to adjust. (My two cents: adjusting the par loaded shouldnt hurt anything... but adjusting the bar should be much easier when its only moving a free hanging axle.)
I still have a question on the "measure" step. I know this step should be easy, but I was curious what landmarks you guys use to measure... (btw, I have the wheels off...)
I feel like Im just swagging it with a tape measure. Is there a good trick to getting it dialed in?
Normally the good sponsors like they are agree on all the major points.. They may disagree on who's product is better or what not (which they never discuss), but never on something like this..
I dont see how a panhard can be adjusted with the wheels on the ground..I just thought all the stress was suppose to be off of these parts before adjusting them, meaning, the tires off the ground. 
UMI and BMR... thanks! Like our teachers always told us "There is always more than one way to solve a problem."
I already have the body on jack stands for my exhaust project. So I will be attempting the method of raising the axle until the suspension holds the full weight. Measure... then drop the axle to adjust. (My two cents: adjusting the par loaded shouldnt hurt anything... but adjusting the bar should be much easier when its only moving a free hanging axle.)
I still have a question on the "measure" step. I know this step should be easy, but I was curious what landmarks you guys use to measure... (btw, I have the wheels off...)
I feel like Im just swagging it with a tape measure. Is there a good trick to getting it dialed in?
I already have the body on jack stands for my exhaust project. So I will be attempting the method of raising the axle until the suspension holds the full weight. Measure... then drop the axle to adjust. (My two cents: adjusting the par loaded shouldnt hurt anything... but adjusting the bar should be much easier when its only moving a free hanging axle.)
I still have a question on the "measure" step. I know this step should be easy, but I was curious what landmarks you guys use to measure... (btw, I have the wheels off...)
I feel like Im just swagging it with a tape measure. Is there a good trick to getting it dialed in?
I would go from the center of the wheel well to the mounting face of the wheel....
This is a great thread!!! lots of good stuff from both BMR and UMI (i have both on my TA) Glad to see its civil,,,,,, now hire some female oil wrestlers, equip em with company logoed bikini's, and settle this thing the way we all want,,,,,greaseiest woman left standing in the oil filled kiddie pool wins!!
I can understand not being able to reach the adjustment sleeve of the bar if the car was "on the ground", so a drive on lift or alignment rack would be ideal. However a set of ramps will suffice.
