panhard adjustment issue OR ?
#1
panhard adjustment issue OR ?
working on exhaust stuff and I had the rear axle at full droop this afternoon - body is on jack stands... then disconnected the shocks and lowered the axle... The passenger side rim and tire caught on the bump stop. The driver side had a little clearance...
so... my question is does this sound like just a simple panhard adjustment problem? I have the UMI adjustable one... or could it be something else that I am overlooking??
Thanks!
so... my question is does this sound like just a simple panhard adjustment problem? I have the UMI adjustable one... or could it be something else that I am overlooking??
Thanks!
#2
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
It's actually a geometry problem. The panhard bar travels in an arc, and as you lowered the axle, it followed the arc defined by the panhard bar. Lowering the axle that much, caused the axle to swing over at least 1.5-2 inches.
In order to determine if you need an adjustable panhard bar to center the axle, the car has to be sitting at ride height, with the suspension in a "normal" compression.
In order to determine if you need an adjustable panhard bar to center the axle, the car has to be sitting at ride height, with the suspension in a "normal" compression.
#3
Heres a option!
working on exhaust stuff and I had the rear axle at full droop this afternoon - body is on jack stands... then disconnected the shocks and lowered the axle... The passenger side rim and tire caught on the bump stop. The driver side had a little clearance...
so... my question is does this sound like just a simple panhard adjustment problem? I have the UMI adjustable one... or could it be something else that I am overlooking??
Thanks!
so... my question is does this sound like just a simple panhard adjustment problem? I have the UMI adjustable one... or could it be something else that I am overlooking??
Thanks!
Its not a problem! It is just the axle unloading when you took the shocks off. If you are worried about your rear being out of line. Put a string in the middle of the fender (kinda like a plum ball) with a wight at the end and get a measurement from the wheel on each side and that will tell you how far the rear is off and adjust from there.
Hope that helps!
Brad
#4
Thanks guys! So Im probably good, when I installed the new panhard I centered it up when the suspension was all on and loaded.
leadfoot, I was trying to think through the arcing deal... wouldnt that push it to the passenger's side? Unless Im mixed up seems like it should be catching on the drivers side as it swings down...
leadfoot, I was trying to think through the arcing deal... wouldnt that push it to the passenger's side? Unless Im mixed up seems like it should be catching on the drivers side as it swings down...
#5
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
Thanks guys! So Im probably good, when I installed the new panhard I centered it up when the suspension was all on and loaded.
leadfoot, I was trying to think through the arcing deal... wouldnt that push it to the passenger's side? Unless Im mixed up seems like it should be catching on the drivers side as it swings down...
leadfoot, I was trying to think through the arcing deal... wouldnt that push it to the passenger's side? Unless Im mixed up seems like it should be catching on the drivers side as it swings down...
I would think that the weight of the axle would want to come straight down, with the panhard bar providing some bias to the passenger side, as it travelled in an arc. However, since the bar pivots at both ends, you might get a bit of "skew", and then, since you still had the tires in place, you'd stop whenever one of the tires came in contact with something.
#6
Thanks
Brad
#7
Thanks!
Trending Topics
#8
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (40)
You are correct. If you unload the suspension and adjust the PHR when you set the car down it will be off due to the arc it swings on. Adjust it at your desired ride height.
__________________
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302
Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302
Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
#9
FormerVendor
iTrader: (77)
You want to jack up the car and with the rear end hanging free adjust the panhard bar. Set the car back down and take your measurement, if it is still not were you desire jack it back up. Once you get it where you want it tighten the jam nuts and you are good to go.
If you need more help please ask us... we do this all the time
Ryan
#10
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (40)
To the OP, when adjusting your panhard bar with the car on the ground you will be centering the body over the tires, not pulling the tires across the ground.
__________________
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302
Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302
Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
#12
thanks guys, I got my question answered....
bottomline: you want the centered measurements taken at ride height. Any other measurements dont matter since the axle swings while it travels.
bottomline: you want the centered measurements taken at ride height. Any other measurements dont matter since the axle swings while it travels.
#16
FormerVendor
iTrader: (77)
Yes exactly with the vehicle on the ground is when you want to take your final measurements... and sorry for all the un-needed arguments. I guess each company has there way of doing this.
#19
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (40)
Another thought......has anyone ever taken the PHR off their car while it is on the ground? Take your hand and put it on the rear quarter panel and give it a push. With no PHR on the car that body will sway left and right a few inches without the bar in the car. I don't see this movment as any sort of "extreme pressures" that are going to give the mounts anywhere near the stress they encounter during hard cornering.
__________________
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302
Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302
Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
#20
FormerVendor
iTrader: (77)
I just don't agree with this, maybe you do and each to there own... but this won't get us anywhere other then making a mess of the original posters thread....