Removing Upper PHB
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Joined: May 2004
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From: Savannah, TN
I have took it off most of the cars i have done i dont build dirt track or road coarse cars . Weight is weight . Those door bars and bumper supports are there for a reson does any one take them out??? I am with the mad folks on this one.
door bars and bumpers are not necessary for drag racing. We always have roll cages in these cars and replace the bumpers with bumper supports made of molly steel.
If your car does not have a front swaybar and is primarily a drag car. You dont need it, There will not be enough side load put on it to matter.
If you road race, trackday, HPDE, or like on/off ramps at a fast pace...leave it on. Simple as that.
If you road race, trackday, HPDE, or like on/off ramps at a fast pace...leave it on. Simple as that.
I can't even really agree with that.... We've all seen cars at the track make a big move to center line or the wall that causes the driver to bail. I've even seen some corrections that caused the inside rear tire to come off the ground (which rarely happens when corner carving). While I agree there are not normally the same kind of lateral or side loads, there can be some big ones while drag racing.
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I can't even really agree with that.... We've all seen cars at the track make a big move to center line or the wall that causes the driver to bail. I've even seen some corrections that caused the inside rear tire to come off the ground (which rarely happens when corner carving). While I agree there are not normally the same kind of lateral or side loads, there can be some big ones while drag racing.
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They don't put parts on *****-nilly, there are reasons for that brace. Obviously the car was not designed for road-racing only, but for street driving. De-engineering a car isn't exactly the way I like to go about modifying things and personally I'm not at all comfortable with taking that off. Maybe some are ok with it, but frankly I've read a lot of things that a lot of folks are ok with that I am not. YMMV.
IF you want to remove it, ok. I certainly can't stop you and to each his own. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I see you points, I'm sure you see mine.
They don't put parts on *****-nilly, there are reasons for that brace. Obviously the car was not designed for road-racing only, but for street driving. De-engineering a car isn't exactly the way I like to go about modifying things and personally I'm not at all comfortable with taking that off. Maybe some are ok with it, but frankly I've read a lot of things that a lot of folks are ok with that I am not. YMMV.
IF you want to remove it, ok. I certainly can't stop you and to each his own. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I see you points, I'm sure you see mine.
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A while back I had removed mine, but whenever I drove on the highway the car seemed like it wanted to dance around a lot. I put it back on and haven't had the problem since then
I may try it again this year, but I didn't feel safe with it off..and this is coming from someone who drives the car everywhere with no front swaybar, skinnies, and M/T ET radials
I may try it again this year, but I didn't feel safe with it off..and this is coming from someone who drives the car everywhere with no front swaybar, skinnies, and M/T ET radials
if its your DD or you corner carve, HELL NO.
if its a weekend cruiser, or drag car, GET RID OF IT.
6.5 pounds weighed with hardware.
another note. next time you are under the car, adjust your panhard bar in and out and keep your eye on the brace.
just turning my panhard rod i can watch the brace flex back and forth.
mine is gone, FWIW, but its mostly weekend cruiser/track *****.
if its a weekend cruiser, or drag car, GET RID OF IT.
6.5 pounds weighed with hardware.
another note. next time you are under the car, adjust your panhard bar in and out and keep your eye on the brace.
just turning my panhard rod i can watch the brace flex back and forth.
mine is gone, FWIW, but its mostly weekend cruiser/track *****.
A while back I had removed mine, but whenever I drove on the highway the car seemed like it wanted to dance around a lot. I put it back on and haven't had the problem since then
I may try it again this year, but I didn't feel safe with it off..and this is coming from someone who drives the car everywhere with no front swaybar, skinnies, and M/T ET radials
I may try it again this year, but I didn't feel safe with it off..and this is coming from someone who drives the car everywhere with no front swaybar, skinnies, and M/T ET radials
Are you taking the panhard bar ITSELF off?
Why would you take it off? You won't go any faster and you won't improve the handling. Somebody mentioned the TB coolant bypass which nets a few hp but the upper phb won't do anything special if it's off. If you want clearance for true duals like I do then maybe somebody can make just a regular bar like the lower phb to fit the upper one. I literally need a 1/2 inch clearance for the bassani x kit and I would be good. If somebody could make a straight bar that adjust then that would be ideal. There is no way I would ever spend over $200 to have a bent upper panhard bar when I know somebody could fab up a straight bar that's longer than the lower one and probably less than a hundred dollars. If it's for clearance, how much longer is the upper one compared to the lower one?
if its your DD or you corner carve, HELL NO.
if its a weekend cruiser, or drag car, GET RID OF IT.
6.5 pounds weighed with hardware.
another note. next time you are under the car, adjust your panhard bar in and out and keep your eye on the brace.
just turning my panhard rod i can watch the brace flex back and forth.
if its a weekend cruiser, or drag car, GET RID OF IT.
6.5 pounds weighed with hardware.
another note. next time you are under the car, adjust your panhard bar in and out and keep your eye on the brace.
just turning my panhard rod i can watch the brace flex back and forth.
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www.stranoparts.com --814-849-3450
Results matter. Talk is cheap. We are miles beyond the success anyone else has had with the 4th gens, and C5, C6, C7 Corvettes,
10 SCCA Solo National Championships, 2008 Driver of they Year, 2012 Driver of Eminence
13 SCCA Pro Solo Nationals Championships
2023 UMI King of the Mountain Champion
