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Old 04-06-2009, 08:38 PM
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Yeah the Brembo fronts cost what, $2800???
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
3400lb car
stock 12" Autozone blanks
C5 calipers
Carbotech XP10/Xp8 pads
No cooling ducts
Castrol SRF fluid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-ILKGNH7k

Big brakes not needed.
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
3400lb car
stock 12" Autozone blanks
C5 calipers
Carbotech XP10/Xp8 pads
No cooling ducts
Castrol SRF fluid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-ILKGNH7k

Big brakes not needed.
I agree with going with a "budget" kit like mitch mentioned first before spending big money on a kit that will possibly be overkill for what you will be doing with the car.
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The only reason you should need fixed pot calipers is for racing which involves repeated stopping from high speeds. Other than that, a quality aluminum 2 piston caliper is more than sufficient, especially for the street.

Here's a good example:

2010 Mustang vs 2010 Genesis Coupe

The new Hyundai Genesis has 4 piston brembo calipers with large rotors up front. The Mustang has conventional 2 piston aluminum PBR calipers (same type as F-body/Vette) and yet the Mustang still stops from 60-0 faster, despite the fact that it weighs more than the Hyundai. The Mustang pulls 108ft from 60-0 with smaller rotors than a C5 Corvette uses. So if you outfit your F-body with C5/C6 rotors (12.8 or 13.4"), Pressure cast Corvette PBR calipers, Hawk HPS pads, and stainless steel brake hoses, I don't see how you could really need much more stopping power.

If you're still insistant on having fixed calipers, just get a set of GM factory Cadillac CTS-V 4 Piston brembos with 14" rotors. Supposedly its a direct bolt on to LS1 spindles, as long as you have the proper wheel clearance (18" or larger). That will give you the performance of the aftermarket kits, but for a fraction of the price.
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The problem with comparing 60-0 stop times is that you're looking at ONE instance of brake performance. Sure the smaller rotor 2-piston brakes might stop the car faster cold, but with repeated braking and high heat from a racing situation, the larger fixed pot brakes will almost always out perform. They have a larger area, better heat dissipation, and more even clamping pressure. It all depends on the application. Apples to oranges so to say.
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Originally Posted by Black98Fivespeed
The problem with comparing 60-0 stop times is that you're looking at ONE instance of brake performance. Sure the smaller rotor 2-piston brakes might stop the car faster cold, but with repeated braking and high heat from a racing situation, the larger fixed pot brakes will almost always out perform. They have a larger area, better heat dissipation, and more even clamping pressure. It all depends on the application. Apples to oranges so to say.
I agree. Like I said:

"The only reason you should need fixed pot calipers is for racing which involves repeated stopping from high speeds. Other than that, a quality aluminum 2 piston caliper is more than sufficient, especially for the street"

And even on a road course M/T reported that the new Mustang GT with the track pack didn't experience any noticeable fade.

Of course for all out track duty or competition, there is no substitute for performance fixed calipers with large diameter rotors.
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Originally Posted by Black98Fivespeed
I'll be developing a 4 piston F-Body big brake kit very soon. 4-piston Wilwood Forged Superlite calipers and 13" Corvette rotors. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
i should have mine on in about two. CTS-v calipers and c6 rotors
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why me please post some pics when your finished!!!
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Originally Posted by pemberton
why me please post some pics when your finished!!!
Yes, please do, I want to see some pics of this setup on the car!!
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will do. i am running 18 black c6 c06 rims. with sivler cts-v calipers. and i was going to put black trans am on them. but decided to go with the word brembo. kind of a "badd ***" thing
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Originally Posted by why me
will do. i am running 18 black c6 c06 rims. with sivler cts-v calipers. and i was going to put black trans am on them. but decided to go with the word brembo. kind of a "badd ***" thing
Beware that I've heard of issues with backspacing, apparently there can be problems with the caliper touching the backside of the spokes on F-bodies due to the wheel offset as compared to the CTS-V/Corvette. Just something to look in to.

Best of luck, can't wait to see the pics!!
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^^^ i was going to start with a test fit. but i have a waterjet at my hands. so i will just make a spacer for what i need
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I think Ol Black98Fivespeed had a blowout in the developing of the big brake kit been 4 years and 2 months and its a no show Say It !!



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