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Panhard bar - which ends?
Panhard bar - which ends? I'm currently shopping for a adjustable panhard bar but don't know which kind of panhard bar I should buy. This is for my daily driver; light to mild cornering.
Which kind of panhard should I get for a daily driver application? Poly / poly ended? Poly / rod end?
I'm just a tad bit confused. I've been searching through the forums but have gotten mixed answers.
Thanks in advance.
Which kind of panhard should I get for a daily driver application? Poly / poly ended? Poly / rod end?
I'm just a tad bit confused. I've been searching through the forums but have gotten mixed answers.
Thanks in advance.
The poly/rod end bar moves more freely than the bushing ended bar. Even if the bushing bar is greased well it still doesn't move as freely as the rod ended one. If your doing some canyon carving or like taking the curves fast thats the bar to use. If your drag racing or just normal street driving the bushing ended one will work fine. We offer both with the poly/rod bar being $5 more then the poly/poly. If you have any questions please give me a call.
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The poly/rod end bar moves more freely than the bushing ended bar. Even if the bushing bar is greased well it still doesn't move as freely as the rod ended one. If your doing some canyon carving or like taking the curves fast thats the bar to use. If your drag racing or just normal street driving the bushing ended one will work fine. We offer both with the poly/rod bar being $5 more then the poly/poly. If you have any questions please give me a call.
I am looking at either the rod/poly or a rod/rod panhard. What are the advantages/disadvantages of going with rod ends on both ends? Will the double rod end be rough/noisy? I am looking for more of a corner carving setup w/ more emphasis being on comfort than corner carving as this is my daily driver. Will the rod ends be more harsh/noisy on bumps and rough roads or handle those situations better.
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Last edited by JamRWS6; May 21, 2009 at 04:22 PM.
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Alot is going to depend on the driving conditions that the car sees. If the car sees snow and alot of rainy type conditions the rod ends might only last a couple years. If the car doesn't see those conditions they could last way longer. They are an easy replacement.
Last edited by BMR Tech2; May 22, 2009 at 07:57 AM.
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life of a rod end is related to elements, and cost, with the higher cost units lasting much longer than cheap ones.
I am building an aluminum poly/ rod ended unit for my car, and purchasing a spare rod end for the body side, if I decide to track the car I will swap it on.
Ryan
I am building an aluminum poly/ rod ended unit for my car, and purchasing a spare rod end for the body side, if I decide to track the car I will swap it on.
Ryan
I am looking at either the rod/poly or a rod/rod panhard. What are the advantages/disadvantages of going with rod ends on both ends? Will the double rod end be rough/noisy? I am looking for more of a corner carving setup w/ more emphasis being on comfort than corner carving as this is my daily driver. Will the rod ends be more harsh/noisy on bumps and rough roads or handle those situations better.
Thanks
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Pan Hard Bar ? I am looking at either the rod/poly or a rod/rod panhard. What are the advantages/disadvantages of going with rod ends on both ends? Will the double rod end be rough/noisy? I am looking for more of a corner carving setup w/ more emphasis being on comfort than corner carving as this is my daily driver. Will the rod ends be more harsh/noisy on bumps and rough roads or handle those situations better.
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I want to know this too.
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I've had all 3; poly/poly, poly/rod, rod/rod, and I never really noticed much, if any increase in noise at all between the 3.
And I find that most poly bushings limit articulation, and create as many problems as they solve unless your just strictly worried about strait line and not corner carving.
I currently use a G.W. PHB with rod/rod,which I've used for years without any regrets.
IMO, go with a rod/rod PHB!
And I find that most poly bushings limit articulation, and create as many problems as they solve unless your just strictly worried about strait line and not corner carving.
I currently use a G.W. PHB with rod/rod,which I've used for years without any regrets.
IMO, go with a rod/rod PHB!
I've got the UMI rod/rod and am very happy...I was warned about the noise increase, but honestly I drive an Fbody w/ a cutout. Noise? What noise? Seriously though, with the stereo off, cutout closed, windows up, I still don't hear any noise coming from my PHB. So, if it's there, it not loud at all.
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What kind of life can you expect out of the poly bushings? My car is mostly a DD and I don't want to be replacing rod ends in 2 years. As was said it is a DD but I want good cornering feel as well. Is polly my best bet for not replacing the bushings often and will the polly eliminate some of the deflection and issues with it feeling like the rear end jumping out while cornering and encountering a bump? The service life of rod ends scares me.
Rod/Rod on all rear suspension parts and never had any problems. Unless you are driving with the stock exhaust you will not notice any difference in noise, but you might "feel" the car a little more.
The downside to the poly ends is not articulation like it is on LCA's. The LCA's have to deal with the axle twisting as well as fore/aft location. The PHB deals with lateral loads only, and as because the axle moves up and down and doesn't rotate bind from poly is a non-issue with the PHB.
I personally use a double rod-end PHB on any car with any sort of serious cornering prowesss or big rear tires as the rod-ends don't deflect with lateral load. Poly bushings do, though a touch less than rubber. If someone has no need for the big bad race type bars, what I most normally recommend is the UMI 2022 Poly/rod hybrid that's also on-car adjustable. $128.99 http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=67&ModelID=7
Why? Because with one rod-end you minimize deflection vs. two bushings. The On-car adjustment makes it a breeze to setup. The poly goes on the body side and isolates an *potential* rod-end noise from the body.
There are also poly/rod hybrids that are not on-car adjustable for a bit less $$$. And there is an all poly adjustable too if you are willing to give up some stiffness.
I personally use a double rod-end PHB on any car with any sort of serious cornering prowesss or big rear tires as the rod-ends don't deflect with lateral load. Poly bushings do, though a touch less than rubber. If someone has no need for the big bad race type bars, what I most normally recommend is the UMI 2022 Poly/rod hybrid that's also on-car adjustable. $128.99 http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=67&ModelID=7
Why? Because with one rod-end you minimize deflection vs. two bushings. The On-car adjustment makes it a breeze to setup. The poly goes on the body side and isolates an *potential* rod-end noise from the body.
There are also poly/rod hybrids that are not on-car adjustable for a bit less $$$. And there is an all poly adjustable too if you are willing to give up some stiffness.
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