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Old 11-17-2003, 07:27 PM
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I can vouch for that.

For '98 and newer F-Bod's this is a direct bolt on, 2 hour upgrade.
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I'm selling the front and rear brake system off a 2001 C5 corvette.
They have 14k easy miles and are in excellent condition(infact still on car). The car has never been autocrossed,drag raced,or in the rain. I am upgrading the brakes to go with the new cnc forged wheels I just bought.

4 calipers front/rear - very clean, seals,pistons,boots are excellent
4 rotors front/rear- perfect condition,no turnning required,no rust
4 sets of pads - 60% life left

Everything listed..............$300 plus shipping

Caliper brackets not included.

Kyle@midstate-electronics.com


Go to http: www.nashvillespeed.com for the adaptor brackets and instructions needed to do a C5 brake upgrade on a F-body(many pictures).
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Why does the LG kit not require removal of the ear on the spindle but this setup does? I'd like to do the 13" rotor and ZO6 brakes on the front and rear. Is it possible on the rear?
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The rear brakes on the Corvette are the exact same OD as the F-Body, and the calipers are virtually identical. The real difference with the F-Body brake is the little baby drum brake inside the "hat" for the parking brake.
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So I assume it's not possible to do the rears in 13"?
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Looks sweet! I love'm, but they won't fit inside my skinnies

Should have got some Z06 calipers while you were at it
Old 12-06-2003, 10:29 AM
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does anyone know how much lous parts are? THe rotors and the brackets?

what would that run, they are local to me, so i could go and pick them up

just wondering
thanks
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Originally Posted by CANNIBAL
Why does the LG kit not require removal of the ear on the spindle but this setup does? I'd like to do the 13" rotor and ZO6 brakes on the front and rear. Is it possible on the rear?
Because the LG kit uses a half moon bracket that just bolts on. But the angle of the caliper is now below the horizontal line of the wheel (I'd guess about 30 degrees) eg. looks like \ instead of -- ). The Bishop brackets keeps the original horiztonal angle of the caliper but you now have to cut part of the spindle that is in the way. As to which way is better is a subject of debate. Just do a search and read up on it and see if you can find some of the pictures that have been posted.


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So I assume it's not possible to do the rears in 13"?
The Corvette has 12" rears also. These brackets are only designed to fit the front which does most of the breaking anyway. So unless someone else has come up with a new bracket system, the answer is no.
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i need to replace pads and rotors
because of that,
i have convinced my better half to fund a c5 conversion
but first i have a few q's

1. what is the performance difference between the c5 and the c5 ZO6 brake conversion?

2. would it be cheaper to order piece by piece or just by the complete set, and in either case where should i order from to get a good deal? i dont want the old lady to pull the plug on this deal, you know.

3. (irrelevant bling question) if the ZO6 braking system is better, can i get the ZO6 setup, but have black calipers w/ red "corvette" writing on them? (look nice on a black trans, methinks )

and last, before this idea, i planned to get some cheap-*** $40 rotors from autozone and have a buddy of a buddy at a machine shop drill some holes in them. if i do this c5 conversion, can i still get cheapass rotors? i dont like the idea of spending ~$500 for two rotors.

and sorry for misspelling "rotor" backwards,
i tend to ramble on im sure you already know
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I thought that the C5 and Z06 brakes were identical except that the Z06 calipers were powder coated red instead of gray (cost the same too).
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Originally Posted by CANNIBAL
So I assume it's not possible to do the rears in 13"?
With enough $$$$ anything is possible.

There might be some issues with the E-brake.
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Originally Posted by miner_49
I thought that the C5 and Z06 brakes were identical except that the Z06 calipers were powder coated red instead of gray (cost the same too).
You are correct there is absolutely no performance difference between a Base Corvette Caliper and the Z06. It is purely appearance.
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
i need to replace pads and rotors
because of that,
i have convinced my better half to fund a c5 conversion
but first i have a few q's

1. what is the performance difference between the c5 and the c5 ZO6 brake conversion?
Answer NO. Just color.

2. would it be cheaper to order piece by piece or just by the complete set, and in either case where should i order from to get a good deal? i dont want the old lady to pull the plug on this deal, you know.
Depends, do you know a good cheap place to buy the parts? Entire kit price is ~$850. How mush is "Lou's" I do not know.

3. (irrelevant bling question) if the ZO6 braking system is better, can i get the ZO6 setup, but have black calipers w/ red "corvette" writing on them? (look nice on a black trans, methinks )
Calipers are either metallic grey or red. If you want black you'll have to paint them. Not hard I painted mine.

and last, before this idea, i planned to get some cheap-*** $40 rotors from autozone and have a buddy of a buddy at a machine shop drill some holes in them. if i do this c5 conversion, can i still get cheapass rotors? i dont like the idea of spending ~$500 for two rotors.
Above listed price includes rotors. The rotors I used are probably the most expensive you can get, there are other more cost appealing choices - I would not drill my own.
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
With enough $$$$ anything is possible.

There might be some issues with the E-brake.
E-brake, DOH! Excellent point, Mitch. The reason I ask was that I thought it'd look "goofy" with huge 13" rotors up front and regular size rotors on the back.
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^ No more goofy than most other front engine cars out there, since most of them run smaller rear rotors. The front brakes do 70% or more of your total braking, so why put heavier unsprung rotating mass on the rear wheels than are absolutely unnecessary? Goofy? Nah.

Doing so may even hinder performance if it throws your brake bias way out of whack. You have a proportioning valve that applies more pressure to the front brakes than the rear brakes. If you applied equal pressure, your rear brakes would lock up (or in our case engage the abs) well before the fronts reached maximum braking. If you increase the braking capabilities of the rear brakes at the same brake pressure, you're throwing that bias out of whack again and could really hurt your stopping ability as a result. If you do want to go this route, you should also install an adjustable proportioning valve. These come with many of the aftermarket brake kits for this very reason
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Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28
You are correct there is absolutely no performance difference between a Base Corvette Caliper and the Z06. It is purely appearance.
Yup! What he said.

In fact.. there isn't alot of difference in the F-body and the vette calipers.
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Yup! What he said.

In fact.. there isn't alot of difference in the F-body and the vette calipers.
I guess "isn't alot" is a relative term.

The gap between the outer ears and the caliper pistons is about 1/4" wider.
The ears are thicker
The pistons are smaller diameter, but thicker material
There are reinforcing ribs that travel across the top and around behind the caliper
They are pressure cast
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
I guess "isn't alot" is a relative term.

The gap between the outer ears and the caliper pistons is about 1/4" wider.
The ears are thicker
The pistons are smaller diameter, but thicker material
There are reinforcing ribs that travel across the top and around behind the caliper
They are pressure cast
Appearance wise they are very similar, but performance wise there is quite a bit to be said about what Mitch says . . . .
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Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28
Appearance wise they are very similar, but performance wise there is quite a bit to be said about what Mitch says . . . .
Sure.. if you running the 24hrs at Daytona
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Sure.. if you running the 24hrs at Daytona
That would be me every time I get into my car.


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