The f-bod front spring/shock how-to
#21
I have lowered 5 cars, 3 cars i didn't have to remove sway bar end links the rest i did, It all depends on the car. Like stated above a few whacks just below the upper ball joint and the spindle comes loose.
Also i always take loose the master cylinder but leave the brakes lines connected to gain access to the driver side strut bolts.
Also i always take loose the master cylinder but leave the brakes lines connected to gain access to the driver side strut bolts.
#22
has anybody else ever seen the shock shaft stuck in the upper mount so bad that it could not be removed? I thought I read somewhere that the drivers side was usually much less rusted then the passenger side - what have you found? I should get to that side this weekend (keeping my fingers crossed that it comes apart as it should.)
#25
Originally Posted by jRaskell
Steps 4 & 5... You are swinging the entire top a-arm and shock assembly out with removing it from the spindle?
I was able to get my shocks out by disconnecting the upper balljoint and without touching the swaybar endlinks. Unless you've got a stubborn balljoint, seems easier then dealing with swaybar endlinks, unless you're swapping in a new swaybar anyways (in which case you should have new endlinks and just cut the old ones off)
I did have problems with that rusted top shock nut though. I just clamped a big fricken set of vice grips onto the shaft to keep it from spinning.
I also did drivers side first, and on that side I took off the caliper, then the carrier that mounts to the spindle, but realized on the passenger side I could probably take it off as one piece (and of course, it came off in one piece)
Didn't think of replacing those torx bolts with regular bolts though. I'll have to keep that in mind next time I dig into my front suspension (if there is a next time, which is probable)
I was able to get my shocks out by disconnecting the upper balljoint and without touching the swaybar endlinks. Unless you've got a stubborn balljoint, seems easier then dealing with swaybar endlinks, unless you're swapping in a new swaybar anyways (in which case you should have new endlinks and just cut the old ones off)
I did have problems with that rusted top shock nut though. I just clamped a big fricken set of vice grips onto the shaft to keep it from spinning.
I also did drivers side first, and on that side I took off the caliper, then the carrier that mounts to the spindle, but realized on the passenger side I could probably take it off as one piece (and of course, it came off in one piece)
Didn't think of replacing those torx bolts with regular bolts though. I'll have to keep that in mind next time I dig into my front suspension (if there is a next time, which is probable)
#26
Originally Posted by pjb
has anybody else ever seen the shock shaft stuck in the upper mount so bad that it could not be removed? I thought I read somewhere that the drivers side was usually much less rusted then the passenger side - what have you found? I should get to that side this weekend (keeping my fingers crossed that it comes apart as it should.)
It will not come apart as it should, I have replaced 2 sets of shocks on F-Bodies, my 2000, and a 2002 and both had to be cut off. The 2002 was the worst. See this thread here.
Shock and spring install from hell
#28
I replaced my shocks last weekend. I went ahead and replaced my front bushings (8) and hardware that attaches to the front sway bar.
First off let me state my goals... This is my weekend fun car that I bought brand new off the lot-first and last. I have kept it in a garage and have done all the mods myself-with the help of this board. I live in Florida but, don't think the car has been subjected to an adverse amount of corrosion. I PM'd and talked at length with Sam Strano about my goals. Out of all the different Car Parts outfits I have talked with I really felt good about our chat. He didn't push me in any direction and, I heard the passion in his voice he has for these cars. I did not end up buying my shocks from him this time -sorry Sam- I could not pass up this deal on ebay! At any rate in the future I will be looking to him for future suspension upgrades. So to be short- I wanted to maintain stock ride height-and I know many will turn their nose up at that but, upgrade my ride over the stock decarbon's.
What I found... I found both sides to have some degree of rust build up but, the passenger side was really ate up. I cleaned up everything and gave the control arms and perches some new paint. I took the fronts to tire kingdom, and they squeezed and replaced 'em. The passenger side as predicted needed a whiz wheel to remove/ destroy the nut/ shock to remove and replace it with the new shock.
Notes... In retrospect I am glad I replaced the front bushings/ hardware.
Before I reinstalled the coil over assy's I generously applied some non conductive silicone grease and rust preventer to the nut/shock rod/ rubber boot top of the assembly-hoping that this will help next time. I mean that thing just lives up under the fender with no real reasonable way to get at it and clean/Corr Prevent it periodically.
With the vehicle supported on 4 jackstands I found placing my jack under the lower control arm and pumping it up great for taking the tension off the spindle arm when removing it from the upper control arm ball joint. Just compress it. No prying, no removing the brakes and jumping on the axel. Just pump it and take the castle nut off easy.
Once again I do believe that the suspension is the most overlooked mod area to these cars and I think / thank Sam Strano for being a positive force in our community.
First off let me state my goals... This is my weekend fun car that I bought brand new off the lot-first and last. I have kept it in a garage and have done all the mods myself-with the help of this board. I live in Florida but, don't think the car has been subjected to an adverse amount of corrosion. I PM'd and talked at length with Sam Strano about my goals. Out of all the different Car Parts outfits I have talked with I really felt good about our chat. He didn't push me in any direction and, I heard the passion in his voice he has for these cars. I did not end up buying my shocks from him this time -sorry Sam- I could not pass up this deal on ebay! At any rate in the future I will be looking to him for future suspension upgrades. So to be short- I wanted to maintain stock ride height-and I know many will turn their nose up at that but, upgrade my ride over the stock decarbon's.
What I found... I found both sides to have some degree of rust build up but, the passenger side was really ate up. I cleaned up everything and gave the control arms and perches some new paint. I took the fronts to tire kingdom, and they squeezed and replaced 'em. The passenger side as predicted needed a whiz wheel to remove/ destroy the nut/ shock to remove and replace it with the new shock.
Notes... In retrospect I am glad I replaced the front bushings/ hardware.
Before I reinstalled the coil over assy's I generously applied some non conductive silicone grease and rust preventer to the nut/shock rod/ rubber boot top of the assembly-hoping that this will help next time. I mean that thing just lives up under the fender with no real reasonable way to get at it and clean/Corr Prevent it periodically.
With the vehicle supported on 4 jackstands I found placing my jack under the lower control arm and pumping it up great for taking the tension off the spindle arm when removing it from the upper control arm ball joint. Just compress it. No prying, no removing the brakes and jumping on the axel. Just pump it and take the castle nut off easy.
Once again I do believe that the suspension is the most overlooked mod area to these cars and I think / thank Sam Strano for being a positive force in our community.
#29
I finally got to the driver side. It was rusted, but not as bad. I had to cut the nut off but everything else (mounts) was reuseable. I put on the DMS springs and a new set of decarbons. I know most of you don't like them but I got a real good deal on them ($50 for all 4) and have had them sitting around for a long time. I haven't had a chance to take the car outside yet, so I don't know what it feels like yet. It looks good, the rear might be a little to high still. I figure I'll drive it a few times before deciding about the heater hose mod. The sway bar end links snapped off (rust) on both sides so I got a set of Energy Suspension poly end links at Autozone. they were only about $15.
#30
New decarbons are about like old decarbons..... The shocks are not really good, even when they are new. I'd have saved the $50 and reused the old ones (if you weren't going to replace them).
#31
I appreciate your expertise and advice. I bought the new decarbons a few years ago and have had them sitting in a box. my old shocks were not reuseable (see previous posts). I rarely drive my car anymore so I haven't justified the cost of the new shocks (yet)
It sure looks cool in the garage. When I'm ready I will certainly consider the expert opinions here for new shocks.
It sure looks cool in the garage. When I'm ready I will certainly consider the expert opinions here for new shocks.
#35
Not to keep bumping an old thread but since I am installing new shocks, springs, and strut mounts do I need to take the fronts apart after I get them out? This is my firs time doing a strut replacement on any vehicle. My rears are already done. Did them this last weekend.
#37
Last edited by Ronerik; 03-14-2012 at 09:09 PM.