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Old 12-12-2009, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker
Basically from what I read on UMI's website they claim that if you are lowered, get the relocation brackets for the LCA's. Any care to agree/disagree?
it really all depends on the degree to which you're lowered, as well as the purpose of the car.

if your main focus is drag racing and you're lowered more than an inch or so, then absolutely get them. the lower the car, the more chance you're going to get wheel hop when launching, and the relocation brackets will help you regain some of the LCA angle you lost from lowering the car and help prevent that wheel hop.

if you do the lower perch/heater hose lowering method with the Koni shocks, it's a judgment call at that point as to whether or not to get them. this lowering method usually only lowers you around 5/8" - 3/4", which is usually enough to get rid of a bit of excessive wheel-well gap, but not really enough to seriously adversely affect your traction (obviously, that's going to vary, based on how sticky your tires are and how hard you launch it).

if your main focus is a daily driver and/or road course or auto-x, the brackets are not as necessary, regardless of the amount lowered....in fact for this purpose, some people consider the relocation brackets detrimental to handling....although if you ever attempt to launch the car hard with it set up like this, you're bound to get massive wheel hop if your tires actually grab, which can be a death sentence for a stock rear end.

it's really up to you to decide what's best for your car....but the basic rule of thumb is that if you get wheel hop on a regular basis, you should get the brackets.

another thing to consider is that most brackets on the market come with at least two sets of holes that you can use for attaching the LCA's to, an upper set and a lower set. the lower set is better for gaining (or regaining) the maximum amount of LCA angle for launching the car. the upper set will still gain (or regain) you some LCA angle, but not as much as the lower set of holes, so for a DD/road course/auto-x car, you could use the upper set of holes to regain a little of the LCA angle, but without losing as much of your handling characteristics. and you can also switch between them fairly quickly, based on what you're doing with the car at the time, since all it requires is removing/replacing one bolt/nut per LCA to change holes.
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Originally Posted by 02Z28LS1
it really all depends on the degree to which you're lowered, as well as the purpose of the car.

if your main focus is drag racing and you're lowered more than an inch or so, then absolutely get them. the lower the car, the more chance you're going to get wheel hop when launching, and the relocation brackets will help you regain some of the LCA angle you lost from lowering the car and help prevent that wheel hop.

if you do the lower perch/heater hose lowering method with the Koni shocks, it's a judgment call at that point as to whether or not to get them. this lowering method usually only lowers you around 5/8" - 3/4", which is usually enough to get rid of a bit of excessive wheel-well gap, but not really enough to seriously adversely affect your traction (obviously, that's going to vary, based on how sticky your tires are and how hard you launch it).

if your main focus is a daily driver and/or road course or auto-x, the brackets are not as necessary, regardless of the amount lowered....in fact for this purpose, some people consider the relocation brackets detrimental to handling....although if you ever attempt to launch the car hard with it set up like this, you're bound to get massive wheel hop if your tires actually grab, which can be a death sentence for a stock rear end.

it's really up to you to decide what's best for your car....but the basic rule of thumb is that if you get wheel hop on a regular basis, you should get the brackets.

another thing to consider is that most brackets on the market come with at least two sets of holes that you can use for attaching the LCA's to, an upper set and a lower set. the lower set is better for gaining (or regaining) the maximum amount of LCA angle for launching the car. the upper set will still gain (or regain) you some LCA angle, but not as much as the lower set of holes, so for a DD/road course/auto-x car, you could use the upper set of holes to regain a little of the LCA angle, but without losing as much of your handling characteristics. and you can also switch between them fairly quickly, based on what you're doing with the car at the time, since all it requires is removing/replacing one bolt/nut per LCA to change holes.
Well put sir. Very knowledgeable. My main purpose of the car is neither a drag ***** or autox. It's a street driven summer time toy and I do get on it from light to light with the local guys when we mess around when we go out. I'll definatelly look into them.
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Do all bolt-in relocation brackets UMI, BMR, J&M require cutting to fit?
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Do all bolt-in relocation brackets UMI, BMR, J&M require cutting to fit?
I believe so. The part that needs to be cut is the e-brake bracket that goes around the back of the mount.
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Update:
If anybody has any doubts my new UMI roto-joints LCA's are perfectly quiet.

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Originally Posted by NVR_SPDS
I believe so. The part that needs to be cut is the e-brake bracket that goes around the back of the mount.
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Originally Posted by Thule
UMI non adjustable lca's here, and umi relocation brackets, car lowered 1.2" no wheelhop at all
Great to hear!

Originally Posted by Striker
Basically from what I read on UMI's website they claim that if you are lowered, get the relocation brackets for the LCA's. Any care to agree/disagree?
Hello
What they do is allow you adjust the lower control arm parallel to the surface (putting it back the the correct position) Therefore eliminating the wheel hop and regaining your traction performance.
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Update:
If anybody has any doubts my new UMI roto-joints LCA's are perfectly quiet.
Great to hear! And thanks again for choosing UMI Performance.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Update:
If anybody has any doubts my new UMI roto-joints LCA's are perfectly quiet.
That's good to here.
What style did you go with, double rod end, poly/rod end..?? adj/non adj.

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Originally Posted by redracer1
That's good to here.
What style did you go with, double rod end, poly/rod end..?? adj/non adj.

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Non-adjustable w/roto joints at both ends.
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UMI is the best! and there prices are great too..
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Thanks for the kind words we appreciate it!
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