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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Good info in this thread that's for sure. I'm lookin for seaybars as well figure can't gowrong with either umi or strano. Just lookng for good balance for street ocassional track.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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I've not only got my own, but UMI and Hotchkis too.... I offer options.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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So, someone had to ask: What about Hotchkis 36 mm up front and Strano 22 in back? Is that matchup ok? Would the Strano adjustable be a better choice in that case?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Sam already answered that in post #18. He said it was too big for a 25mm rear bar, so I guess that would mean it's too big for a 22mm bar. Sam, any reason why you don't offer the greasable fittings with your kit?


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So, someone had to ask: What about Hotchkis 36 mm up front and Strano 22 in back? Is that matchup ok? Would the Strano adjustable be a better choice in that case?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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No, that is not what he said. It is the opposite, that a 25mm rear bar was not matched well enough with 36mm front. i.e. it would have to be a bigger front.

My questions remain.

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Sam already answered that in post #18. He said it was too big for a 25mm rear bar, so I guess that would mean it's too big for a 22mm bar. Sam, any reason why you don't offer the greasable fittings with your kit?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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You're right, my bad. I read it backwards.


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No, that is not what he said. It is the opposite, that a 25mm rear bar was not matched well enough with 36mm front. i.e. it would have to be a bigger front.

My questions remain.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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I can vouch that Sam's newer front bar works well on a convertible, easy install no modifications were necessary.

If I wanted a better working rear I'd just go with a 22mm adj bar with a wattslink.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
So, someone had to ask: What about Hotchkis 36 mm up front and Strano 22 in back? Is that matchup ok? Would the Strano adjustable be a better choice in that case?
Why? Do you want to pay more for that combination? I mean I sell Hotchkis too, if you really want to do that. But I don't see the reason.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HavATampa
Sam, any reason why you don't offer the greasable fittings with your kit?

A few. The biggest one is that greaseable versions break under high load--they crack starting at the hole. I've tried using them, and tore 4 sets up in total. Maybe they are fine for just cruising around, but I don't do cruising only, and did not want a part I could break in there.

Also, we use really, really good grease, and the bushings are pretty hard, slick urethane too--more slippery than Energy Suspension's tend to be.
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I know you have been considering the Strano and the UMI ones.. But, I can highly recommend BMR Fabrication Products.

I have their front and rear sway bar kit that included all the end links and hardware.. Everything bolted in really easy.. And, I love the positive controlled feeling that the car has..
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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And which BMR set do you have? I mean 32/22 solid that they claimed were the best, or the 35/25 that are now the best?

I use quite different hardware. My bars are CNC bent (and clear convertible K-member bracing). Also my bars are IMHO better balanced. A 25mm rear bar is just too much rear roll stiffness. I made my bars like I did my springs--based on what I felt worked best for handling.... And I turn corners and do it seriously and at limits higher than most anyone will see on the street (which is how I found out that I failed greasable bushings). And I use much bigger endlink bolts as well.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
That occasional need for a tweaking is a huge reason (one of 3) I changed suppliers... My bars are made to spec for me now by Hellwig who uses a CNC bender, Addco did not. The other reasons were supply issues, and powdercoating issues. All 3 were addressed with the move.
I bought both your front and rear bars used from members on here, and they were the older addco bars. I hear you on the powdercoating issues, I ended up blasting both bars and painting them because the powdercoat was flaking off and had surface rust underneath!
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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And when a change needs to me made.... it gets done. There were other reasons, if it had just been coating I'd have had them coated elsewhere, but there were other details I needed to address by moving suppliers.
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I have the 35/25 an I never had other aftermarket set on my car personally.. But, what I can say is that they feel way better then the factory sways that came on the 96 WS-6
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This kind of input is really useful, thanks! Too bad all companies aren't this engaged with the customer about their products.

Now, I am dying to see a list of all the modifications the the Strano Camaro SCCA champion car...

Not too interested in Honda CRX's! ;-)
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
And which BMR set do you have? I mean 32/22 solid that they claimed were the best, or the 35/25 that are now the best?

I use quite different hardware. My bars are CNC bent (and clear convertible K-member bracing). Also my bars are IMHO better balanced. A 25mm rear bar is just too much rear roll stiffness. I made my bars like I did my springs--based on what I felt worked best for handling.... And I turn corners and do it seriously and at limits higher than most anyone will see on the street (which is how I found out that I failed greasable bushings). And I use much bigger endlink bolts as well.
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