GMHTP's 6-piston CTS-V Setup
03-05-2011, 03:55 AM
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It's there. Join the message board and look.
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The short short summation however is that Strange makes an eliminator that is tough enough for the track and street but they don't advertise it so you have to call them and talk to someone "in the know"
You have to be a member to view some of the old threads.
The short short summation however is that Strange makes an eliminator that is tough enough for the track and street but they don't advertise it so you have to call them and talk to someone "in the know"
04-01-2011, 02:37 AM
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If this is the same article on their website that talks about the initial dyno, dragstrip, skidpad, and roadcourse testing, they said their handling and braking was having problems due to the shocks going bad.
04-01-2011, 09:24 AM
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Steve,
I think we are talking about two different articles. FBodyFan is referring to very first track outing, in which we were using a set of worn out (and stuck) stock shocks, which didn't allow the suspension to compress under braking making it difficult to stop, start or rotate the Camaro. With the Koni/BMR setup, the car feels GREAT!
In the last article, in which we compare the Killer to an actual STi, we did notice that the Subaru was able to "dig deeper" into the heavy brake zones, dropping speed much faster than the Camaro. We have several theories as to why this is happening and we plan on exploring each of them in the coming months. Brake pressure, possibly... Or a lack of a matched rear, among other things.
Without going into too much detail, I will say that the 6-piston CTS-V caliper has served us well so far and, even though the Subaru (which has factory Brembos) could out-brake it, it wasn't by much. For a street car or weekend warrior, the 6-piston calipers do a great job and look the part but for an all out racer, it may not be the best idea to just bolt on the fronts and head out on track.
More on that in an upcoming issue.
P.S - If anyone has any other questions, or if I missed some, please post up!
I think we are talking about two different articles. FBodyFan is referring to very first track outing, in which we were using a set of worn out (and stuck) stock shocks, which didn't allow the suspension to compress under braking making it difficult to stop, start or rotate the Camaro. With the Koni/BMR setup, the car feels GREAT!
In the last article, in which we compare the Killer to an actual STi, we did notice that the Subaru was able to "dig deeper" into the heavy brake zones, dropping speed much faster than the Camaro. We have several theories as to why this is happening and we plan on exploring each of them in the coming months. Brake pressure, possibly... Or a lack of a matched rear, among other things.
Without going into too much detail, I will say that the 6-piston CTS-V caliper has served us well so far and, even though the Subaru (which has factory Brembos) could out-brake it, it wasn't by much. For a street car or weekend warrior, the 6-piston calipers do a great job and look the part but for an all out racer, it may not be the best idea to just bolt on the fronts and head out on track.
More on that in an upcoming issue.
P.S - If anyone has any other questions, or if I missed some, please post up!
04-01-2011, 11:59 AM
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Steve,
I think we are talking about two different articles. FBodyFan is referring to very first track outing, in which we were using a set of worn out (and stuck) stock shocks, which didn't allow the suspension to compress under braking making it difficult to stop, start or rotate the Camaro. With the Koni/BMR setup, the car feels GREAT!
In the last article, in which we compare the Killer to an actual STi, we did notice that the Subaru was able to "dig deeper" into the heavy brake zones, dropping speed much faster than the Camaro. We have several theories as to why this is happening and we plan on exploring each of them in the coming months. Brake pressure, possibly... Or a lack of a matched rear, among other things.
Without going into too much detail, I will say that the 6-piston CTS-V caliper has served us well so far and, even though the Subaru (which has factory Brembos) could out-brake it, it wasn't by much. For a street car or weekend warrior, the 6-piston calipers do a great job and look the part but for an all out racer, it may not be the best idea to just bolt on the fronts and head out on track.
More on that in an upcoming issue.
P.S - If anyone has any other questions, or if I missed some, please post up!
I think we are talking about two different articles. FBodyFan is referring to very first track outing, in which we were using a set of worn out (and stuck) stock shocks, which didn't allow the suspension to compress under braking making it difficult to stop, start or rotate the Camaro. With the Koni/BMR setup, the car feels GREAT!
In the last article, in which we compare the Killer to an actual STi, we did notice that the Subaru was able to "dig deeper" into the heavy brake zones, dropping speed much faster than the Camaro. We have several theories as to why this is happening and we plan on exploring each of them in the coming months. Brake pressure, possibly... Or a lack of a matched rear, among other things.
Without going into too much detail, I will say that the 6-piston CTS-V caliper has served us well so far and, even though the Subaru (which has factory Brembos) could out-brake it, it wasn't by much. For a street car or weekend warrior, the 6-piston calipers do a great job and look the part but for an all out racer, it may not be the best idea to just bolt on the fronts and head out on track.
More on that in an upcoming issue.
P.S - If anyone has any other questions, or if I missed some, please post up!
04-01-2011, 12:36 PM
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Brakeo - No and that is a good point. The Subaru has the stock pads/rotors/calipers while the STi Killer (the Camaro) has a set of EBC Bluestuff pads up front along with a set of Yellowstuff on the stock rear calipers.
04-02-2011, 02:33 AM
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In the last article, in which we compare the Killer to an actual STi, we did notice that the Subaru was able to "dig deeper" into the heavy brake zones, dropping speed much faster than the Camaro. We have several theories as to why this is happening and we plan on exploring each of them in the coming months. Brake pressure, possibly... Or a lack of a matched rear, among other things.
Without going into too much detail, I will say that the 6-piston CTS-V caliper has served us well so far and, even though the Subaru (which has factory Brembos) could out-brake it, it wasn't by much. For a street car or weekend warrior, the 6-piston calipers do a great job and look the part but for an all out racer, it may not be the best idea to just bolt on the fronts and head out on track.
Without going into too much detail, I will say that the 6-piston CTS-V caliper has served us well so far and, even though the Subaru (which has factory Brembos) could out-brake it, it wasn't by much. For a street car or weekend warrior, the 6-piston calipers do a great job and look the part but for an all out racer, it may not be the best idea to just bolt on the fronts and head out on track.
Chris
04-03-2011, 08:36 AM
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I think that was earlier on in that story...it has spanned multiple issues, the latest of which was the culmination of all the parts/upgrades they were planning on doing to help get it around the road course. From the sounds of this last article, though, they are planning on doing even more, so I'm interested to see how they address the concerns they had about the CTS-V front only brake upgrade.
04-03-2011, 03:46 PM
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CTS-V 6-piston Brembo front (38 / 34 / 30 mm pistons): 2749mm^2 piston area
The CTS-V front caliper has 13.6% LESS piston area than the OE Camaro caliper, not more.
Chris