Torque Arm & Poly Trans Mount Installed
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Torque Arm & Poly Trans Mount Installed
On Sunday I installed an Edelbrock Torque Arm, and Prothane poly trans mount (along with a Thunder Racing ported TB and BMR driveshaft loop), and I must say both those items make a big difference in the car feeling more 'solid' on acceleration. Hard to describe, but the best way to explain it is the car doesn't have as much lateral 'flex' as before when punching it... feels a ton better.
Also, the stock torque arm bushing was all chewed up, which to my best guess is like that because of lots of hard launches. So this makes at least a bushing replacement a must-do mod, and while you're taking the bushing off, you might as well do the whole torque arm.
And while I can hear more exhaust/road noise through the poly trans mount, I'm not getting much if any increase in vibration. I recommend both these mods...
Tips for the install:
1. Make use of a dremel to cut the rivet heads off the old torque arm bushing & bracket. I couldn't imagine doing this with anything else... also if you can't punch the rivets out after chopping the heads, a good drill with titanium tips chews the rest of the rivet right out of the hole. It is also much, much easier to do this with the bracket off the car, so definitely take it off.
2. If you have a choice of bushings, go with Energy Suspension... that way you don't have to mess with backing plates on the bushing ever again. Also, the Energy Suspension bushing is one solid piece, unlike the Prothane or stocker, which is two pieces.
3. Taking off the transmission support makes things so much easier when it comes to taking the torque arm bushing bracket off the car. And since you'll expose the tranny mount when taking the support off, you might as well change that mount while you're there, which is why I went with the Prothane mount.
4. Last but probably most important, keep the rear suspended with a jack or jackstands at all times when pulling off the torque arm! I forgot about this when I moved the jack and the rear end rotated on me... and it was a major PITA to get it back to center again. So if you've gotta move the jack, remember to support it with an extra set of jackstands!
Overall, doing all these mods took about 4 hours (with a 1 hour lunch break thrown in and lots of BSing). After doing it the first timeI could probably do all these mods in less than half that time working straight through.
Here are a couple of pics:
Edelbrock Torque Arm compared to stock piece:
Prothane Poly Transmission Mount Installed:
Also, the stock torque arm bushing was all chewed up, which to my best guess is like that because of lots of hard launches. So this makes at least a bushing replacement a must-do mod, and while you're taking the bushing off, you might as well do the whole torque arm.
And while I can hear more exhaust/road noise through the poly trans mount, I'm not getting much if any increase in vibration. I recommend both these mods...
Tips for the install:
1. Make use of a dremel to cut the rivet heads off the old torque arm bushing & bracket. I couldn't imagine doing this with anything else... also if you can't punch the rivets out after chopping the heads, a good drill with titanium tips chews the rest of the rivet right out of the hole. It is also much, much easier to do this with the bracket off the car, so definitely take it off.
2. If you have a choice of bushings, go with Energy Suspension... that way you don't have to mess with backing plates on the bushing ever again. Also, the Energy Suspension bushing is one solid piece, unlike the Prothane or stocker, which is two pieces.
3. Taking off the transmission support makes things so much easier when it comes to taking the torque arm bushing bracket off the car. And since you'll expose the tranny mount when taking the support off, you might as well change that mount while you're there, which is why I went with the Prothane mount.
4. Last but probably most important, keep the rear suspended with a jack or jackstands at all times when pulling off the torque arm! I forgot about this when I moved the jack and the rear end rotated on me... and it was a major PITA to get it back to center again. So if you've gotta move the jack, remember to support it with an extra set of jackstands!
Overall, doing all these mods took about 4 hours (with a 1 hour lunch break thrown in and lots of BSing). After doing it the first timeI could probably do all these mods in less than half that time working straight through.
Here are a couple of pics:
Edelbrock Torque Arm compared to stock piece:
Prothane Poly Transmission Mount Installed:
Last edited by Tranzor_Z28; 02-17-2004 at 12:33 AM.
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Nice write up. Glad to hear your install went pretty smooth.
Where did you get the torque arm, and how much did it cost you? I am considering this mod myself.
Where did you get the torque arm, and how much did it cost you? I am considering this mod myself.
Last edited by ZigZagZ; 02-26-2004 at 01:34 PM.
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Originally Posted by ZigZagZ
NIce write up. Glad to hear your install went pretty smooth.
Where did you get the torque arm, and how much did it cost you? I am considering this mod myself.
Where did you get the torque arm, and how much did it cost you? I am considering this mod myself.
FYI, just the torque arm was $178 shipped through Summit Racing, and the next best price I could find for this was at Pace Parts, and that was $193 shipped to my area code, again for just the torque arm.
I definitely recommend this mod, especially if you go to the track and have any kind of traction issues... also, I'm pretty sure my stock rubber torque arm bushing was all chewed up because of multiple hard launches at the track. And my car only has 18,500 miles and the torque arm bushing looked pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
4. Last but probably most important, keep the rear suspended with a jack or jackstands at all times when pulling off the torque arm! I forgot about this when I moved the jack and the rear end rotated on me... and it was a major PITA to get it back to center again. So if you've gotta move the jack, remember to support it with an extra set of jackstands!
BTW, good write up
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Originally Posted by Jerm
That is why it took 4 hours
BTW, good write up
BTW, good write up
That and dremel/drilling the rivets also slowed things down a bit... those two things were the slowest parts of the install. Everything else went pretty quick.
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Originally Posted by ChitownLS1
Just curious; why is the torque arm so much cheaper than the BMR and Spohn versions?
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Originally Posted by 98TA86
Another question for you, how much more does the edelbrock TA weigh compared to the stocker?
Thanks
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The bolt in the tranny mount was a seperate piece that came in the package with the mount... it was screwed in once the mount was bolted on.
It is definitely a Prothane mount... the torque arm mount I have is an Energy Suspension mount, which I like better than the Prothane because it is one piece with no backing plates.
It is definitely a Prothane mount... the torque arm mount I have is an Energy Suspension mount, which I like better than the Prothane because it is one piece with no backing plates.
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Originally Posted by 2MCHPWR
what is the part number for the tranny mount from summit?
PTP-7-1604-BL?? no specific listing for F-body. is that mount used for all GM cars?
PTP-7-1604-BL?? no specific listing for F-body. is that mount used for all GM cars?
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That tranny mount made mine sound like some sort of coffee grinding device!!! Took it off that night. Went to a 1le and it makes the shifter vibrate and a gross noise on hard shifts. Not to mention IT caused my KR to retard 4 degrees. I'm going back to a stock mount. AT least yours is ok.
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also redlinez, which brand mount did you use? if you used energy suspension, you do not use the plate that comes with it, and you have to shave down the two "nubs" on the side opposite the side with the plate. if you don't do those things, you will get vibration and noise.
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I didnt Eldebroke made a torque arm, seems like a good price too. I will have to look into it a little. Seems like everone that has used it so far has had good luck. Like what was mentioned earlier, you need the adjustment for a lowered car though.