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Old 08-12-2011, 07:22 PM
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Which way do you point the top adjuster so that you can get to it once it is installed? Does it point out towards the wheel or front or back? Thanks

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I think it will depend of the spring you're using. I used my stock SS springs which are 1LE and on the passenger side the adjustment opening at the top of the shock is facing direcly out to the right (wheel well). The driver's side is facing out to the left and slightly forward.
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Thanks. I have an ss as well with 1le springs. So that is exactly what I was looking for.

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How do you know you have 1LE springs? How does one verify that? Also, how different are the spring rates from 1LE from SS springs? I assume 1LE are not lowered, correct?
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I believe that all SS's got the 1le springs. But I had the part #'s for the springs and verified that mine were 1le's. The springs are a higher rate but also a progressive rate. I don't remember the rates off the top of my head. They are actually a little taller than the stock springs.

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Originally Posted by 25thhawk
I believe that all SS's got the 1le springs. But I had the part #'s for the springs and verified that mine were 1le's. The springs are a higher rate but also a progressive rate. I don't remember the rates off the top of my head. They are actually a little taller than the stock springs.

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in 01-02 it was a suspension option from SLP since there were no true 1LE camaro's produced, it wasn't offered on 00 camaro's as we had no 1LE and 98-99 had 1LE's so that kinda answers itself lol
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How do you know you have 1LE springs? How does one verify that? Also, how different are the spring rates from 1LE from SS springs? I assume 1LE are not lowered, correct?
The 98 SS came with 1LE suspension. 32MM front sway, 19MM rear. The front spring rate is 360Lbs/In, the rear is 130/180 Lbs/In. My springs and sways still had the part number tags on them. If you search this site you will find a link with a listing of all the part numbers.
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Correct, my sway bars were the 1le part # also. I wish they would have put the Koni DA's on there while they were at it. I need to find a set of rears to complete my setup.
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From my information this is at least part false on the 1LE sway sizes. There is no mention of different springs for the SLP 1LEs...

Is this accurate?:
OEM springs:
98+ V8: 292lb/in front, 114lb/in rear (same for Z28 AND SS?)
98+ V6: 257lb/in front, 114lb/in rear (same for base and RS?)

The following from:
http://web.archive.org/web/200905241...ttp://1le.net/

Also see:
http://www.camarossregistry.com/options/1151.html

"1LE suspension is back for 2001 and is offered exclusively by SLP on the Camaro SS and FireHawk. It includes Koni double adjustable front and rear shocks allowing you to "tune" your suspension to your specific handling needs. Front upper and lower control arms are tightened up with stiffer rubber bushings. Hollow 35mm front swaybar significantly reduces body roll. Includes revised endlinks, reinforced body mount brackets and firmer bushings. Rear lower control arms with firmer bushings reduce wheel hop under heavy acceleration. Larger 21mm rear swaybar and bushings decrease body roll. Package also includes Koni shock adjustment tool.
Cost: $1899.00"

Spring numbers off of two 2002 1LE's were:
Front: FZR 22132561
Rear: TTJ 22077421
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The 98 SS came with 1LE suspension. 32MM front sway, 19MM rear. The front spring rate is 360Lbs/In, the rear is 130/180 Lbs/In. My springs and sways still had the part number tags on them. If you search this site you will find a link with a listing of all the part numbers.

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I can't say 100% for sure because I have only confirmed it on my 98 SS. But mine has the 1le springs with 32mm and 19mm bars. I am not sure that all years used the same part #'s for the springs. Also I verified my spring #'s 10+ years ago, I am not even sure if the sticker is still on the spring now. I know the z-28 springs were a different rate. The sway bars were 30/19 for a z-28. The SS's got 32/19 bars. The slp "1le" cars used different bars. I think they were 35/21 combos. I would also assume that the WS6 vs trans ams got the same treatment for upgrades. But I can't confirm that.
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
From my information this is at least part false on the 1LE sway sizes. There is no mention of different springs for the SLP 1LEs...

Is the this accurate:
OEM springs:
98+ V8: 292lb/in front, 114lb/in rear (same for Z28 AND SS?)
98+ V6: 257lb/in front, 114lb/in rear (same for base and RS?)

The following from:
http://web.archive.org/web/200905241...ttp://1le.net/

Also see:
http://www.camarossregistry.com/options/1151.html

"1LE suspension is back for 2001 and is offered exclusively by SLP on the Camaro SS and FireHawk. It includes Koni double adjustable front and rear shocks allowing you to "tune" your suspension to your specific handling needs. Front upper and lower control arms are tightened up with stiffer rubber bushings. Hollow 35mm front swaybar significantly reduces body roll. Includes revised endlinks, reinforced body mount brackets and firmer bushings. Rear lower control arms with firmer bushings reduce wheel hop under heavy acceleration. Larger 21mm rear swaybar and bushings decrease body roll. Package also includes Koni shock adjustment tool.
Cost: $1899.00"

Spring numbers off of two 2002 1LE's were:
Front: FZR 22132561
Rear: TTJ 22077421
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I guess I should have mentioned my 98 SS did not go to SLP for any suspension upgrades, which would have been the SLP Level II Bilstein Ultra Performance Suspension priced at 999.00 in February of 1998. The base SS came with the FE4 suspension. You can research that suspension package and you will find the components I previously mentioned in my earlier post, along with the 1LE progressive rate springs for 1998-1999. I don't think this was the case in 2001 for a base SS coupe. Also, the Bilstein package could not be ordered on a covertible in 1998.
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We would have to do more research to find details on this FE4 suspension, the further you go back in time, the more challenging it is to find details...

But here's SLP's details on 1LE (click on "Optional Content"):
http://web.archive.org/web/200302051.../2001camaross/

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Yes, but that is the slp offered "1le" package, not the gm offered package. I am not even sure if the cars that got that would show 1le on the rpo tag. My guess would be that they don't. I can tell you that on my car the only difference from the SS and 1le was that mine didn't get the Koni DA's. Everthing else, endlinks, bushings, etc. were the same as #'s as the 1le parts. I am only talking about suspension parts, because I know there are other parts that were different because of the non-power windows etc.

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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
We would have to do more research to find details on this FE4 suspension, the further you go back in time, the more challenging it is to find details...

But here's SLP's details on 1LE (click on "Optional Content"):
http://web.archive.org/web/200302051.../2001camaross/
Info taken from a post on camaroZ28.com. However, you can't believe everything you read. Nevertheless, I obtained the similar info from a GM parts number sheet and cross checked MY part numbers with those on the part number sheet and determined the springs and sway bars on MY car were as previously stated. My RPO is FE4 on the build sheet. One interesting fact is both my springs and the sway bars had 1997 part numbers for the 1LE springs and 32MM and 19MM bars. The numbers did not match the numbers for a 1998.

Quote: "1998-2002 Camaro SS and WS6 Trans-Am/Formula came with FE4 suspension. The kicker is 1998-early 2000 models differ greatly from the late 2000-2002 models.
For 1998-early 2000 FE4 it included 1LE springs front and rear, the 1993-1995 1LE deCarbon shocks (1LE rear shocks are the same diameter as the front shocks and are slightly stiffer, I have not figured out if the fronts really differ from regular deCarbons), 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE pan hard bar, 1LE 32mm front sway-bar and 17x9 wheels with 275/40-17 tires. I am not sure if any of the front suspension received any other 1LE parts other than the front sway bar."

"For late 2000-2002 the only differences between FE2 and FE4 are very minor. The only difference is the 1LE 32mm front sway bar and the 17x9 wheels with 275/40-17 tires. Also of note is the fact that GM stiffened up the deCarbons for a firmer ride in 2001 untill the end of production in 2002."

"I have been researching this for quite some time. I currently have 02 deCarbon front shocks with 1LE springs (from a 96 WS6 T/A) and stock 02 shocks and springs in the rear of my 2002 Camaro SS. It's amazing how much better the car handles with just the front springs installed. Less roll and the ride is only slight amount stiffer. Hope this helps clear some of the confusion."



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