Best "Budget" Shock for Drag and Street
#1
Best "Budget" Shock for Drag and Street
Ok. So I'm probably different than most people on this:
I don't care anything about lowering my car.
I don't care about road course style handling.
I DO care about the vehicle riding smoothly.
I DO go to the dragstrip a few times a year.
What would be a good "Budget" Shock....(I know Koni and QA1 double adjustable would be best, but is there anything cheaper?)
I don't care anything about lowering my car.
I don't care about road course style handling.
I DO care about the vehicle riding smoothly.
I DO go to the dragstrip a few times a year.
What would be a good "Budget" Shock....(I know Koni and QA1 double adjustable would be best, but is there anything cheaper?)
#2
Ok. So I'm probably different than most people on this:
I don't care anything about lowering my car.
I don't care about road course style handling.
I DO care about the vehicle riding smoothly.
I DO go to the dragstrip a few times a year.
What would be a good "Budget" Shock....(I know Koni and QA1 double adjustable would be best, but is there anything cheaper?)
I don't care anything about lowering my car.
I don't care about road course style handling.
I DO care about the vehicle riding smoothly.
I DO go to the dragstrip a few times a year.
What would be a good "Budget" Shock....(I know Koni and QA1 double adjustable would be best, but is there anything cheaper?)
Koni SAs/DAs are a handling shock (although Koni does make a drag specific shock, just not a bolt in for our cars). These are ideal for ride/handling but not launching.
The QA1s are a non-gas charged drag shock, these are ideal for launching but not ride/handling.
The two are polar opposites.
If you care about ride quality you generally want to stay away from drag-specific suspension. And since you drive on the street I would personally suggest getting a ride-friendly shock (that may not launch the best) and use sticky tires for traction. Bilstiens would probably be the best bet IMO.
#4
Ok. So I'm probably different than most people on this:
I don't care anything about lowering my car.
I don't care about road course style handling.
I DO care about the vehicle riding smoothly.
I DO go to the dragstrip a few times a year.
What would be a good "Budget" Shock....(I know Koni and QA1 double adjustable would be best, but is there anything cheaper?)
I don't care anything about lowering my car.
I don't care about road course style handling.
I DO care about the vehicle riding smoothly.
I DO go to the dragstrip a few times a year.
What would be a good "Budget" Shock....(I know Koni and QA1 double adjustable would be best, but is there anything cheaper?)
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#5
You guys are probably looking at much better 60's than I'd ever hit. I'm currently running 2.0's ha ha. If I could get it down to 1.8's I'd probably be happy.
Maybe I could keep a stock type rear shock and single adjustable on front?
Maybe I could keep a stock type rear shock and single adjustable on front?
#7
What tires are you running? It looks like you have a bolt on car, I dont think you need to do suspension to cut a 1.8? Think some good tires will do that for you on stock suspension, but I could be wrong.
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#8
If you're only looking to cut at 1.80, then Bilsteins will be your friend. They will ride really well on the street, improve handling, and operate well at the strip. For drag use, they won't make your car any faster, but they won't negatively impact your launching like a Tokico, KYB, or Koni might. That 60ft should be doable with most shocks, actually. But if your main priority is to improve the ride of your car, go with the Bilstein setup. At $410 for a full set, there is hardly anything else I would suggest.
- Kevin
P.S. Steer clear of drag shocks if you're concerned with ride comfort.
- Kevin
P.S. Steer clear of drag shocks if you're concerned with ride comfort.
#10
Those suggesting the Bistein, do you mean the SLP spec'd version:
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...shock-package/
Would I be fine on my stock springs?
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...shock-package/
Would I be fine on my stock springs?
#11
Those suggesting the Bistein, do you mean the SLP spec'd version:
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...shock-package/
Would I be fine on my stock springs?
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...shock-package/
Would I be fine on my stock springs?
#12
if you have no interest in road course style handling, why the hell would you waste the $$$ putting a bilstein on the car?
This guy does not need to waste $400 on something that at best wont make a difference in his car "where it matters to him" and at worst will hurt his occasional drag strip run. Add to it, that's a non-adjustable shock...wow.
A Comp 3-way set at medium is going to be no worse ride quality in the rear than a bilstein, and will kick it's *** at the track. all while saving $$$....
Again, you dont need to replace the stock front shock to get the performance you are currently looking for. An unhooked sway bear the night before you go to the track will do just as much for you and it's free at your power level.
This guy does not need to waste $400 on something that at best wont make a difference in his car "where it matters to him" and at worst will hurt his occasional drag strip run. Add to it, that's a non-adjustable shock...wow.
A Comp 3-way set at medium is going to be no worse ride quality in the rear than a bilstein, and will kick it's *** at the track. all while saving $$$....
Again, you dont need to replace the stock front shock to get the performance you are currently looking for. An unhooked sway bear the night before you go to the track will do just as much for you and it's free at your power level.
#14
I cut 1.6xs all day with regular (non SLP) Bilsteins.
#15
Did I say anything about Comps??? NO, I dont have any experience with them. My stock shocks were 140k blown pieces of **** so I replaced them with the Bilsteins as I drive mine on the street all the time. I didnt say anything about them working better than anything just that they are a good stock replacement and they work at the track better than he is asking for.
#16
Did I say anything about Comps??? NO, I dont have any experience with them. My stock shocks were 140k blown pieces of **** so I replaced them with the Bilsteins as I drive mine on the street all the time. I didnt say anything about them working better than anything just that they are a good stock replacement and they work at the track better than he is asking for.
I guess my point is, what do they do better than a comp in the back...and they are non-adjustable. Why did you buy the bilstein's over a comp or other shock for that matter? What makes the Comp 3-way so "unstreet-able"??
Don't get defensive. I'm not arguing. I was trying to discuss tech...this is ls1TECH afterall.
#17
if you have no interest in road course style handling, why the hell would you waste the $$$ putting a bilstein on the car?
This guy does not need to waste $400 on something that at best wont make a difference in his car "where it matters to him" and at worst will hurt his occasional drag strip run. Add to it, that's a non-adjustable shock...wow.
A Comp 3-way set at medium is going to be no worse ride quality in the rear than a bilstein, and will kick it's *** at the track. all while saving $$$....
Again, you dont need to replace the stock front shock to get the performance you are currently looking for. An unhooked sway bear the night before you go to the track will do just as much for you and it's free at your power level.
This guy does not need to waste $400 on something that at best wont make a difference in his car "where it matters to him" and at worst will hurt his occasional drag strip run. Add to it, that's a non-adjustable shock...wow.
A Comp 3-way set at medium is going to be no worse ride quality in the rear than a bilstein, and will kick it's *** at the track. all while saving $$$....
Again, you dont need to replace the stock front shock to get the performance you are currently looking for. An unhooked sway bear the night before you go to the track will do just as much for you and it's free at your power level.
Factory decarbon shocks do not ride smooth at all IMO (more like loose, floaty and jarring at the same time). So that cancels them out.
Bilstiens will ride more smoothly, and be significantly more stable than the stock decarbons.
As for the comp's, are they even gas charged? Call me crazy but I don't think a purpose built really cheap drag shock (also labeled as "for drag use only") is going to ride as well as a purpose built gas charged sport shock made specifically for our cars. And if the adjustment works like other drag shocks do (like QA1s) it wont matter the setting, its still going to ride overly harsh while being loose at the same time (poor valving, non-gas charged).
Also only going to the dragstrip a couple times a year, so what is more important, a 0.1 second quicker 60ft (maybe if that) for 1% of the time you drive the car, or a better ride, stability and feel for 99% of the time you drive the car?
Even if I didn't like going around corners I would still buy a sport shock because they make these cars drive SO much better (WAY, WAY more stable and ride much more smooth and solid).
#18
I've had both(all four if you count the qa1 and decarbon) and can tell you with confidence the roughest ride I had was the bilstein's.
He is NOT concerned with handling.
If you seriously think a bilstein is going to be a potentially soft a ride as a 3-way comp, then I can't help you. Have you ever actually put your *** cheeks in a car with comp 3ways on the back? Also, What about the comp is any less "car specific" than the rear bilstein?!
You're probably right, as quoted directly from the op, a "budget minded shock for drag and street" is a BILSTEIN....wow. Think about what you're recommending.
You do know the comp 3-way can be setup 30/70, 40/60, and 50/50...essentially giving him the option to ride at smooth as stock ride comfort, but adjust as needed for the track and continuing performance of the car.
Not everyone needs to waste $400 on a set of overpriced bilstein's. You'd be amazed at the other options out there.
He is NOT concerned with handling.
If you seriously think a bilstein is going to be a potentially soft a ride as a 3-way comp, then I can't help you. Have you ever actually put your *** cheeks in a car with comp 3ways on the back? Also, What about the comp is any less "car specific" than the rear bilstein?!
You're probably right, as quoted directly from the op, a "budget minded shock for drag and street" is a BILSTEIN....wow. Think about what you're recommending.
You do know the comp 3-way can be setup 30/70, 40/60, and 50/50...essentially giving him the option to ride at smooth as stock ride comfort, but adjust as needed for the track and continuing performance of the car.
Not everyone needs to waste $400 on a set of overpriced bilstein's. You'd be amazed at the other options out there.
#19
It was totally an apples to apples comparison?
Ive never been on comp's, but if they are anything like QA1s they might as well be a paper weight.
He is NOT concerned with handling.
If you seriously think a bilstein is going to be a potentially soft a ride as a 3-way comp, then I can't help you. Have you ever actually put your *** cheeks in a car with comp 3ways on the back?
Also, What about the comp is any less "car specific" than the rear bilstein?!
You're probably right, as quoted directly from the op, a "budget minded shock for drag and street" is a BILSTEIN....wow. Think about what you're recommending.
You do know the comp 3-way can be setup 30/70, 40/60, and 50/50...essentially giving him the option to ride at smooth as stock ride comfort, but adjust as needed for the track and continuing performance of the car.
Not everyone needs to waste $400 on a set of overpriced bilstein's. You'd be amazed at the other options out there.
Good shocks can make or break a setup, and make the biggest difference in the world.
Let me tell you, if I had the choice to have my car with all the suspension mods I have (springs, swaybars, wattslink, LCAs, TQ arm, SFCs) with stock shocks or my car on just koni SA with otherwise stock suspension, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to opt for the Koni/stock suspension, the other stuff makes a miniscule difference in comparison, you have no idea.
#20
I had been considering a drag shock set-up. However, I am starting to lean towards keeping a normal shock so I will still enjoy driving my car. Any shock is going to be better than stock at the strip as long as your using a good tire and have a decent suspension set-up. So... considering all that and not wanting to dump the money for a set of Koni's guess what I will be getting...
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