Suspension for cheap mods
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Suspension for cheap mods
So I know I will not be able to calm my desire to mod my car even though it is not a top priority right now (getting married and buying a house at the top) so I have been thinking about "cheaper" mods, i.e. no H/C, built trans, etc. So I think suspension would be a logical choice. Current suspension setup on the car is as follows:
-Founders STB
-UMI boxed weld in SFC's
-UMI adjustable PHB (poly ends)
-BMR chomemoly adjustable LCA's (poly ends)
-Stock 16" wheels, 245/50R16 tires, stock springs, stock shocks, stock sway bars, stock torque arm, etc
Possible changes to suspension (part #'s from WS6Store):
-UMI Solid Front and Rear Sway Bar Kit [211213]
-UMI Driveshaft Safety Loop - LT Header Setup [2025]
-UMI Adjustable Transmission Mount Torque Arm [2205]
-UMI Torque Arm Relocation Kit - Automatic [2208]
-Bilstein HD Shock Package (Set of 4) [BILPKG]
-Keep stock springs
-Maybe a wheel/tire package (17x9 with 275's on all 4)
-Brakes?
How does that sound to you suspension experienced guys? Would it better to save up all those parts and install them all at the same time or in what order should they be installed? At what point would an alignment or any other suspension type service need done?
-Founders STB
-UMI boxed weld in SFC's
-UMI adjustable PHB (poly ends)
-BMR chomemoly adjustable LCA's (poly ends)
-Stock 16" wheels, 245/50R16 tires, stock springs, stock shocks, stock sway bars, stock torque arm, etc
Possible changes to suspension (part #'s from WS6Store):
-UMI Solid Front and Rear Sway Bar Kit [211213]
-UMI Driveshaft Safety Loop - LT Header Setup [2025]
-UMI Adjustable Transmission Mount Torque Arm [2205]
-UMI Torque Arm Relocation Kit - Automatic [2208]
-Bilstein HD Shock Package (Set of 4) [BILPKG]
-Keep stock springs
-Maybe a wheel/tire package (17x9 with 275's on all 4)
-Brakes?
How does that sound to you suspension experienced guys? Would it better to save up all those parts and install them all at the same time or in what order should they be installed? At what point would an alignment or any other suspension type service need done?
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Is this all for just a daily driver setup? Any plans of doing racing somewhat regularly? Depending on your driving application, I will have some recommendations. My recommendations may be controversial but they are just my .02 cents. I daily drove my z28 for about 6 years and have been racing it in autox and spec drags events, so I like to think I'm good reference for this type of information
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So I know I will not be able to calm my desire to mod my car even though it is not a top priority right now (getting married and buying a house at the top) so I have been thinking about "cheaper" mods, i.e. no H/C, built trans, etc. So I think suspension would be a logical choice. Current suspension setup on the car is as follows:
-Founders STB
-UMI boxed weld in SFC's
-UMI adjustable PHB (poly ends)
-BMR chomemoly adjustable LCA's (poly ends)
-Stock 16" wheels, 245/50R16 tires, stock springs, stock shocks, stock sway bars, stock torque arm, etc
Possible changes to suspension (part #'s from WS6Store):
-UMI Solid Front and Rear Sway Bar Kit [211213]
-UMI Driveshaft Safety Loop - LT Header Setup [2025]
-UMI Adjustable Transmission Mount Torque Arm [2205]
-UMI Torque Arm Relocation Kit - Automatic [2208]
-Bilstein HD Shock Package (Set of 4) [BILPKG]
-Keep stock springs
-Maybe a wheel/tire package (17x9 with 275's on all 4)
-Brakes?
How does that sound to you suspension experienced guys? Would it better to save up all those parts and install them all at the same time or in what order should they be installed? At what point would an alignment or any other suspension type service need done?
-Founders STB
-UMI boxed weld in SFC's
-UMI adjustable PHB (poly ends)
-BMR chomemoly adjustable LCA's (poly ends)
-Stock 16" wheels, 245/50R16 tires, stock springs, stock shocks, stock sway bars, stock torque arm, etc
Possible changes to suspension (part #'s from WS6Store):
-UMI Solid Front and Rear Sway Bar Kit [211213]
-UMI Driveshaft Safety Loop - LT Header Setup [2025]
-UMI Adjustable Transmission Mount Torque Arm [2205]
-UMI Torque Arm Relocation Kit - Automatic [2208]
-Bilstein HD Shock Package (Set of 4) [BILPKG]
-Keep stock springs
-Maybe a wheel/tire package (17x9 with 275's on all 4)
-Brakes?
How does that sound to you suspension experienced guys? Would it better to save up all those parts and install them all at the same time or in what order should they be installed? At what point would an alignment or any other suspension type service need done?
I'd personally enjoy the Bilsteins and UMI sways as a first step.
ramey
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Is this all for just a daily driver setup? Any plans of doing racing somewhat regularly? Depending on your driving application, I will have some recommendations. My recommendations may be controversial but they are just my .02 cents. I daily drove my z28 for about 6 years and have been racing it in autox and spec drags events, so I like to think I'm good reference for this type of information
I understand that everybody's recommendations will be different, modding is all about personal preference and all that, but for a higher than stock performing street car how does that all sound?
I want to keep to one manufacturer as much as I can so that's why there is all the UMI parts. I got the BMR LCA's new off a friend for $100 cheaper than retail because he sold his car before putting them on and because the STB may not do anything I went with the cheapest one I could find
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I'm with Ramey. I'd start with shocks and bars. The other stuff isn't handling or day to day driveability related. FWIW, I carry the full UMI line, including their bars. I also have my hollow bars which aren't much more and are significantly lighter. I carry Bilstein's too.
I'll be honest and tell you that it's hard to recommend things without a better idea of what you dislike and want to improve. It's like going to the doctor and saying "I want to feel better", but not mentioning why you feel badly. And parts are like pills, you use certain ones to do certain things......
I'll be honest and tell you that it's hard to recommend things without a better idea of what you dislike and want to improve. It's like going to the doctor and saying "I want to feel better", but not mentioning why you feel badly. And parts are like pills, you use certain ones to do certain things......
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Possible changes to suspension (part #'s from WS6Store):
-UMI Solid Front and Rear Sway Bar Kit [211213]
-UMI Driveshaft Safety Loop - LT Header Setup [2025]
-UMI Adjustable Transmission Mount Torque Arm [2205]
-UMI Torque Arm Relocation Kit - Automatic [2208]
-Bilstein HD Shock Package (Set of 4) [BILPKG]
-Keep stock springs
-Maybe a wheel/tire package (17x9 with 275's on all 4)
-Brakes?
-UMI Solid Front and Rear Sway Bar Kit [211213]
-UMI Driveshaft Safety Loop - LT Header Setup [2025]
-UMI Adjustable Transmission Mount Torque Arm [2205]
-UMI Torque Arm Relocation Kit - Automatic [2208]
-Bilstein HD Shock Package (Set of 4) [BILPKG]
-Keep stock springs
-Maybe a wheel/tire package (17x9 with 275's on all 4)
-Brakes?
I always saw the driveshaft safety loop as something bigger powered cars want for drag strip safety and to pass certain inspections. If you dont see yourself getting more serious into drag racing in the future, I'd skip this.
I've been on my stock torque arm for a while and put some decent stress on it. I autoxed and did the local spec drags for a while with this. I eventually switched to a different arm to get more anti squat for launching. It def helped. Someone may disagree but for your application I'd start with the stock torque arm. Change it if you experience wheel or brake hop or need more launch traction.
Brakes.. def give your stock system a refresh. New fluid, clean regrease the caliper pins, new brake hardware. Then if you want to save money, go with like a Hawk HPS and some good rotors. You can get a LOT out of stock brakes.
I like at least a 17x9 with a 275 all around on these cars at minimum for look and to decrease the rollover a little compared to the stock sizes. Since you have a TA, you could probably put in a 36mm offset 17X11 in the back with a 315 with no modification. You can retain the stock lugs in this case since you dont need a spacer.
Bilstiens and stock springs great choice! Along with the UMI bars. These few things will have the greatest effect on handling compared to what other people think actually helps.