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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Ok so I have a 2000 z28 and I'm looking for a shop who is good at tuning suspension. I have a bad vibration on decal it feels like my whole car is going to fall apart. It has slp springs, sphon adjustable frame mounted torque arm, sub frame connectors, spohn lca, moser 12 bolt, spohn solid motor mounts and adjustable spohn phb. I have made sure that everything is tight and my current pinion angle is -2 it's great when I step on it but vibrates bad on decal. If anyone has tips or can point me in the right direction to take to a local shop by stockton ca, I would appreciate it
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It sounds like one of two things:

1) The Torque Arm is allowing the rear axle to rotate; thus screwing up the driveline angles of the driveshaft/rear-axle. Check the bolts and bushings on the Torque Arm; look for any slop, movement, etc. Also check any/all of the other suspension points for the rear suspension.

2) The gears in your rear-end have issues; namely the pinion depth or backlash is too large. This may be an issue. Pull the cover off the rear end and look at the wear pattern on the gears; it should be centered and even on all faces of the teeth.
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Ok so I have a 2000 z28 and I'm looking for a shop who is good at tuning suspension. I have a bad vibration on decal it feels like my whole car is going to fall apart. It has slp springs, sphon adjustable frame mounted torque arm, sub frame connectors, spohn lca, moser 12 bolt, spohn solid motor mounts and adjustable spohn phb. I have made sure that everything is tight and my current pinion angle is -2 it's great when I step on it but vibrates bad on decal. If anyone has tips or can point me in the right direction to take to a local shop by stockton ca, I would appreciate it
Have you checked the pinion angle and if so what kind of pinion angle are you running on your car?
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Originally Posted by BMR Sales2
Have you checked the pinion angle and if so what kind of pinion angle are you running on your car?
Yes its at -2 measured at the bracket and at the driveshaft. I was told to check my engine angle since the solid motor mounts let the engine sit a little higher
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Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
It sounds like one of two things:

1) The Torque Arm is allowing the rear axle to rotate; thus screwing up the driveline angles of the driveshaft/rear-axle. Check the bolts and bushings on the Torque Arm; look for any slop, movement, etc. Also check any/all of the other suspension points for the rear suspension.

2) The gears in your rear-end have issues; namely the pinion depth or backlash is too large. This may be an issue. Pull the cover off the rear end and look at the wear pattern on the gears; it should be centered and even on all faces of the teeth.
Your the 2 person to metion the rear end I have 410 gears now Im haveing a hard time understanding how this would affect it only on deceal? I'm in need of new posi clutches so I'm going to open it anyway but if you can explain how it would only do it on deceal? Thanks
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Your the 2 person to metion the rear end I have 410 gears now Im haveing a hard time understanding how this would affect it only on deceal? I'm in need of new posi clutches so I'm going to open it anyway but if you can explain how it would only do it on deceal? Thanks
The gears load on a different face during deceleration; they can be smooth when on one face, and cause a vibration on the other face just due to the nature of the design of the gears. (Without getting into technical discussion about loading of helical gear designs, bearing loading, etc.

Put the rear of the car on jackstands; pull the driveshaft off, and the rear cover off and check the following things:

1) Pinion bearing preload; there shouldn't be any in-out motion of the pinion at the yoke. See how much slop there is in rotating the yoke until you can feel/hear the ring gear making contact.

2) Look at the wear pattern on the gears and compare it to what it should look like; there are plenty of pictures online.

If I had to put $$ on, I'd say you'll find an issue with one of these 2 things. The bad part is, depending on how long you've driven on the gears; you may need a new set of bearings/gears and to get the rearend rebuilt.
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Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
The gears load on a different face during deceleration; they can be smooth when on one face, and cause a vibration on the other face just due to the nature of the design of the gears. (Without getting into technical discussion about loading of helical gear designs, bearing loading, etc.

Put the rear of the car on jackstands; pull the driveshaft off, and the rear cover off and check the following things:

1) Pinion bearing preload; there shouldn't be any in-out motion of the pinion at the yoke. See how much slop there is in rotating the yoke until you can feel/hear the ring gear making contact.

2) Look at the wear pattern on the gears and compare it to what it should look like; there are plenty of pictures online.

If I had to put $$ on, I'd say you'll find an issue with one of these 2 things. The bad part is, depending on how long you've driven on the gears; you may need a new set of bearings/gears and to get the rearend rebuilt.
Thanks I will be checking all of that on Monday. Now the vibration wasn't there before I started after I snapped my torque arm bracket and I replaced I will update on what's going on
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