LCA recommendation
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This.
Or if you need new LCA,s I hear that the moog bushings in the LCA's = 1LE. (See Strano also)
Don't know if you want adjustable. IMHO, before LCAs, I would be getting shocks. I see you still have those stock blasted orange shocks on there.
Or if you need new LCA,s I hear that the moog bushings in the LCA's = 1LE. (See Strano also)
Don't know if you want adjustable. IMHO, before LCAs, I would be getting shocks. I see you still have those stock blasted orange shocks on there.
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Stockers are back on but wheels not centered. I need adjustable. Yeah shocks are next, LOL TECH Resident
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If you are mainly street use with light track use I would recommend the 3 piece poly-joint control arms. They are on car adjustable and use a bushing design with a hard inner poly ball and very soft outer cups to allow the suspension to articulate like the factory arms do. The only purpose of the out bushings is to hold the ball in place.
I like the idea behind these LCAs, having a poly "roto-joint", so you have articulation, without the harshness of an all out Heim joint, as well as having the adjustability of length, to be able to adjust the "thrust angle" of the rear axle, relative to the car. However, that connector in the LCA looks a LOT like the same connector that has been pictured as bending, or collapsing, when used on adjustable PHBs.
I was interested in these LCAs, as I previously tried a pair of "Roto-jont" LCAs on my car, but didn't like the harshness of them, especially on the frost-heaved, pot hole strewn, roads where I live. Right now, I have a set of custom fabbed, tubular LCAs, with OE rubber bushings in them, which work well, but don't allow for thrust angle adjustment, consequently my continuing look at other options. However, my concern is the overall strength of this particular connector on the pictured LCA, as an assembly is only as strong as it's smallest component.
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I don't think they come perfectly centered from factory. Plus I'm lowered, relocation brackets, and bigger meats going on
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How are your wheels not centered? Front to back or side to side?
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I'm running with Founders and the only difference in ride quality from stock is the rear is planted as all hell in the turns now and straight line the launch is hugely improved! I give them a huge thumbs up guys...
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, just noticed after lca and relocation bracket install. I'm almost certain I read somewhere (but couldn't find it again) that rear isn't perfectly centered from the factory. Thread Starter
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If you are mainly street use with light track use I would recommend the 3 piece poly-joint control arms. They are on car adjustable and use a bushing design with a hard inner poly ball and very soft outer cups to allow the suspension to articulate like the factory arms do. The only purpose of the out bushings is to hold the ball in place.
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It's very possible they were not "centered from the factory", but in my mind, being centered and being square are two different thing lol.
Seems like you are dealing with a "non-squaring" issue.
I'm not adding any helpful advice, as it seems you have found the LCA's you are looking for.
Seems like you are dealing with a "non-squaring" issue.
I'm not adding any helpful advice, as it seems you have found the LCA's you are looking for.
I hate to be a "wet blanket", but sometimes I just can't help myself.....
I like the idea behind these LCAs, having a poly "roto-joint", so you have articulation, without the harshness of an all out Heim joint, as well as having the adjustability of length, to be able to adjust the "thrust angle" of the rear axle, relative to the car. However, that connector in the LCA looks a LOT like the same connector that has been pictured as bending, or collapsing, when used on adjustable PHBs.
I was interested in these LCAs, as I previously tried a pair of "Roto-jont" LCAs on my car, but didn't like the harshness of them, especially on the frost-heaved, pot hole strewn, roads where I live. Right now, I have a set of custom fabbed, tubular LCAs, with OE rubber bushings in them, which work well, but don't allow for thrust angle adjustment, consequently my continuing look at other options. However, my concern is the overall strength of this particular connector on the pictured LCA, as an assembly is only as strong as it's smallest component.
I like the idea behind these LCAs, having a poly "roto-joint", so you have articulation, without the harshness of an all out Heim joint, as well as having the adjustability of length, to be able to adjust the "thrust angle" of the rear axle, relative to the car. However, that connector in the LCA looks a LOT like the same connector that has been pictured as bending, or collapsing, when used on adjustable PHBs.
I was interested in these LCAs, as I previously tried a pair of "Roto-jont" LCAs on my car, but didn't like the harshness of them, especially on the frost-heaved, pot hole strewn, roads where I live. Right now, I have a set of custom fabbed, tubular LCAs, with OE rubber bushings in them, which work well, but don't allow for thrust angle adjustment, consequently my continuing look at other options. However, my concern is the overall strength of this particular connector on the pictured LCA, as an assembly is only as strong as it's smallest component.
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It's very possible they were not "centered from the factory", but in my mind, being centered and being square are two different thing lol.
Seems like you are dealing with a "non-squaring" issue.
I'm not adding any helpful advice, as it seems you have found the LCA's you are looking for.
Seems like you are dealing with a "non-squaring" issue.
I'm not adding any helpful advice, as it seems you have found the LCA's you are looking for.
The Testing:
We built a fixture which simulated a factory control arm mounting and tested how much force was needed to make the control arm articulate (twist) in those mounts and the results where astounding.
Poly-Joint Bushings:
5 degrees of total rotation = 26.1 foot/pounds of torque
7.5 degrees of total rotation = 35.8 foot/pounds of torque
10 degrees of total rotation = 41.7 foot/pounds of torque
Standard 2 piece setup using only 85 durometer bushings:
5 degrees of total rotation = 124.7 foot/pounds of torque
7.5 degrees of total rotation = 156.4 foot/pounds of torque
10 degrees of total rotation = not measurable with fixture. The 1/2" grade 8 bolt twisted in half at 9.2 degrees which was 210 foot/pounds of torque.