front suspension help
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"so nothing constructive to add? do the world a favor and don't have kids"
A quote from you richards. The springs are from summit racing 292lbs. Or "ss" springs. Slight up grade from the z28. The monrores are pretty decent for what I want right now. Please refrain from your bashing of others. The BMR parts have helped out substantialy they're not just flashy. Sorry I haven't had time between my three deployments in the marine corps to put a set of 500 dollar konis on.
A quote from you richards. The springs are from summit racing 292lbs. Or "ss" springs. Slight up grade from the z28. The monrores are pretty decent for what I want right now. Please refrain from your bashing of others. The BMR parts have helped out substantialy they're not just flashy. Sorry I haven't had time between my three deployments in the marine corps to put a set of 500 dollar konis on.
All (non 1LE) LS1 cars had 292lbs/in springs. You bought the exact same springs that you had before.
Next, monroes are garbage for performance for 4th gen fbodies. They have a slit cut in their piston to purposely let oil pass through for a "softer" ride, this is similar to how a "blown out" shock would act.
You could have bought something like the said Koni's instead of all the parts you have now and would have had all around better performance on otherwise stock suspension because of it (yea its true), been there, done that. Newbie mistakes.
Good shocks are the single best suspension mod you can do, they are the foundation to a setup.
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Staging Lane
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From: Beaufort, sc
Learning the hard way. Later on when I have time to make it to the track I'll upgrade the shocks. The Monroe's are paid for and will do just fine for now. As to the spring rates it depends on the year and trim of your car. Not all non 1le ls1 got the same spring rates.
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Staging Lane
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Okay you guys got me thinking. Do I really need the front control arms with poly. The car is not my everyday driver. I also have a passat. However I don't plan on auto x. Would it be that much more benifitial to just get new stock ball joints, sell the BMR fronts and get a set of nice schocks. These newbie mistakes are starting to get to me. I do plan to hit the drag track a couple times a year. I'm keeping the stock ride height as well.
"so nothing constructive to add? do the world a favor and don't have kids"
A quote from you richards. The springs are from summit racing 292lbs. Or "ss" springs. Slight up grade from the z28. The monrores are pretty decent for what I want right now. Please refrain from your bashing of others. The BMR parts have helped out substantialy they're not just flashy. Sorry I haven't had time between my three deployments in the marine corps to put a set of 500 dollar konis on.
A quote from you richards. The springs are from summit racing 292lbs. Or "ss" springs. Slight up grade from the z28. The monrores are pretty decent for what I want right now. Please refrain from your bashing of others. The BMR parts have helped out substantialy they're not just flashy. Sorry I haven't had time between my three deployments in the marine corps to put a set of 500 dollar konis on.
Okay you guys got me thinking. Do I really need the front control arms with poly. The car is not my everyday driver. I also have a passat. However I don't plan on auto x. Would it be that much more benifitial to just get new stock ball joints, sell the BMR fronts and get a set of nice schocks. These newbie mistakes are starting to get to me. I do plan to hit the drag track a couple times a year. I'm keeping the stock ride height as well.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...-sale-now.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...ials-back.html
so now would be the time if you have the funds, otherwise roll with what you have and plan for the upgrade of shocks next year around this time.
just for future reference or anyone that may come across this thread the front tubular control arms are typically considered the last thing to change in the suspension and are generally mainly for weight reduction or adding adjustment to the alignment the factory parts can't achieve that are generally only used by auto-x or drag strip racers.
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Staging Lane
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Staging Lane
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Just put the order into BMR. 323 doll hairs. Hope its as worth while as you guys say. I'm sure I'll have some more questions. Wish I would have thought to ask about shocks instead of assuming.
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Staging Lane
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Yeah I have the sensatrac in the back. I'll definitely be putting them in my self. The back is super easy to do. The front not so much but I can handle it. One of the pictures shows the shop we have access to with an old guy who was a chassis expert. Doesn't seem like he's up to speed on much new stuff.
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Learning the hard way. Later on when I have time to make it to the track I'll upgrade the shocks. The Monroe's are paid for and will do just fine for now. As to the spring rates it depends on the year and trim of your car. Not all non 1le ls1 got the same spring rates.
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Staging Lane
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I believe z28s came with 240 something for 98 and 99.
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Where did you hear that from???
Heres a link to recorded spring rates for our cars:
http://www.angelfire.com/my/fastcar/suspension.html
Heres a link to recorded spring rates for our cars:
http://www.angelfire.com/my/fastcar/suspension.html
After finding out how hard they are to get your hands on, it is starting to become a consideration. Glad to hear you are liking the parts, they will definitely make a huge difference in the car's performance and feel. If you need anything else give us a call and we will get you taken care of!
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Staging Lane
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Decided to update. I'm going to use my stock lower control arms and repaint them. Bought new bushings and ball joints from Moog. Still going to use the BMR upper control arm up front. I'm not so worried about the poly up top on the street. Haven't got the konis delivered yet. As soon as I'm up and walking better I hope to get this project done and move on to the next.
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Staging Lane
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From: Beaufort, sc
Got the rear str.t shocks installed and wow what a difference. Can't wait to tackle the fronts tomorrow with new bushings. Thanks for the advice to not use the gabarge monrore sensatrac.
