Horrible brake fade!!
#1
Horrible brake fade!!
new to the site ive tried reseaching different options for brakes on the front of my 02 SS. Would really like some input and suggestions. Ive been looking at the ctsv 4 piston swap on 17" wheels.
#2
What is the car used for? Just street driving? Auto-x? Road course?
Your setup will be different depending on what you do.
Unless you are hardcore road racing you can get away with stock style blank rotors, stock calipers and good pads <- that is the key.
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#3
I would like to start auto x with it never tried with the setup i currently have, which at the moment is slotted and cross drilled rotors and some duralast pads that have been on the car when i purchased it. The setup is horrible.
#4
While on the subject for auto-x look into the koni/strano setup, don't be tricked into getting drag coilovers (like viking, qa1, afco or strange) for handling as many do. Run a square tire setup, not staggered, and stay away from poly bushings. Make sure you search before buying anything, there are A LOT of parts out there that will HURT handling and driveabilty that some sponsors would never tell you about.
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#6
Another vote for a simple set of blank rotors and Hawk HPS or 5.0 pads. You'll definitely notice a difference from your current setup.
If you start to spend more time on track, it's worthwhile to run street pads (HPS or something similar) and track pads. I prefer the Hawk DTC-60 on track.
If you start to spend more time on track, it's worthwhile to run street pads (HPS or something similar) and track pads. I prefer the Hawk DTC-60 on track.
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#12
What are 5.0 pads?
Do you run the same DTC-60's on both front & rear?
Do you run the same DTC-60's on both front & rear?
Another vote for a simple set of blank rotors and Hawk HPS or 5.0 pads. You'll definitely notice a difference from your current setup.
If you start to spend more time on track, it's worthwhile to run street pads (HPS or something similar) and track pads. I prefer the Hawk DTC-60 on track.
If you start to spend more time on track, it's worthwhile to run street pads (HPS or something similar) and track pads. I prefer the Hawk DTC-60 on track.
#13
Yeah, definitely overkill. To give you an idea what your stock brakes are capable of, I ran brakes that were the same size as yours for a couple of years for road racing. I needed to upgrade when the car's speeds started hitting 140 with regularity, and then it was only because I needed the extra heat shedding/holding from higher mass rotors. The big calipers kinda came with the territory, but were not absolutely needed. I was eyeballling 2010 camaro ss calipers when a buddy bought the wilwoods.
This for a semi-dedicated track car that goes back and forth between granny slow and stupid fast a lot in a short timeframe. If you're street, drag, autox mostly, then big brakes don't really have a practical application (besides looking cool). Road race and towing are different animals though.
This for a semi-dedicated track car that goes back and forth between granny slow and stupid fast a lot in a short timeframe. If you're street, drag, autox mostly, then big brakes don't really have a practical application (besides looking cool). Road race and towing are different animals though.
Last edited by 1981TA; 06-24-2015 at 07:59 AM.
#15
Brembo blanks, for stock sized rotors. For pads I would recommend Carbotech AX6s. They do dust, but so do the HPS, but the difference is it will wipe off and never stick like Hawks do.
No one has mentioned it, but good fluid is important.
I just put Hawk 5.0s on my SRT8, dust is good, but the squeal, oh my lord.
No one has mentioned it, but good fluid is important.
I just put Hawk 5.0s on my SRT8, dust is good, but the squeal, oh my lord.
#16
Are these generally agreed to be comparable to the HPS in stopping power? If so, wipeable dust is a HUGE plus!
While we're on the topic, what have you all found best for wiping HPS dust clean after it sticks?
While we're on the topic, what have you all found best for wiping HPS dust clean after it sticks?
#17
I loved them.
I have XP12s and 10s now, which are a race pad, but have the same dust characteristics. Noisy though.
#18
I thought that they stopped manufacturing these at least 8-9 years ago, and ONLY offer the slotted, and/or drilled for our stock set up now, or is it just that they shifted ALL manufacturing of our stock size/fit rotors over to China (and still make the blanks for us there).
I always thought that the reasons above are WHY Sam (Strano) stopped carrying the Brembo blanks (EITHER Sino made, or NO blanks at all offered from them).
Agree on the fluid, since many to most on here think "brake fluid is brake fluid", just like they do for gear oil.
I am going to try the Torque RT700 fluid next (with the AX6es, IF they are made for the Wilwoods), with either a Wilwood front system, or a totally replaced stock system, and just flush it every 1.5 years.
#19
Brembo still makes blanks for our stock systems??
I thought that they stopped manufacturing these at least 8-9 years ago, and ONLY offer the slotted, and/or drilled for our stock set up now, or is it just that they shifted ALL manufacturing of our stock size/fit rotors over to China (and still make the blanks for us there).
I always thought that the reasons above are WHY Sam (Strano) stopped carrying the Brembo blanks (EITHER Sino made, or NO blanks at all offered from them).
Agree on the fluid, since many to most on here think "brake fluid is brake fluid", just like they do for gear oil.
I am going to try the Torque RT700 fluid next (with the AX6es, IF they are made for the Wilwoods), with either a Wilwood front system, or a totally replaced stock system, and just flush it every 1.5 years.
I thought that they stopped manufacturing these at least 8-9 years ago, and ONLY offer the slotted, and/or drilled for our stock set up now, or is it just that they shifted ALL manufacturing of our stock size/fit rotors over to China (and still make the blanks for us there).
I always thought that the reasons above are WHY Sam (Strano) stopped carrying the Brembo blanks (EITHER Sino made, or NO blanks at all offered from them).
Agree on the fluid, since many to most on here think "brake fluid is brake fluid", just like they do for gear oil.
I am going to try the Torque RT700 fluid next (with the AX6es, IF they are made for the Wilwoods), with either a Wilwood front system, or a totally replaced stock system, and just flush it every 1.5 years.
They do not make the 2 pc Eradi's anymore either.
#20
The Hawk 5.0 pads are aimed to fill a need similar to the HPS albeit with a different compound. Just another alternative to the HPS.
On track, I run DTC-60's on the front and HP+ on the rear. I'm going to experiment more with the DTC-70's up front this fall to see if that does a better job getting the front/rear bias in line to eliminate wheel hop. The current setup isn't bad, however I think there might be a marginal improvement with the DTC-70/HP+ combo.
Last edited by Midnight02; 06-29-2015 at 03:22 PM.