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Old 11-09-2015, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
How does this kit compare to a base C5 conversion with track brackets? Would unmolested spindles be required to run this kit?
Well it uses a bracket like that, you have to grind on the upright a little. But how does it compare? Favorably because it gets you away from the crappy two piston sliding caliper. Just because it says Corvette on them doesn't make them very good, they have 95% the same issues as the F-body calipers. They **** and taper wear pads, the pads are more expensive, and in the end they just aren't as efficient at applying force to the pads, and can't do it evenly (which is why the pads taper wear).
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Sam, I just wanted to double check, as I have BS Street Lites (which barely clear the stock Calipers), but I wanted to make sure I was reading that schematic correctly.

I was looking at the SL6 with a spacer on the front of my car with ARP long studs. In looking at that drawing, it looks like it says it needs 1.45" from the face of the rotor to the edge of the caliper? Is that right? The SL6 only needs .75"... is this caliper that much thicker than the SL6? I doubt I can clear these even with a .5" spacer, but could clear the SL6.

Also, how would this work vs the 13" SL6 in the front and 13" SL4 in the rear with the stock master?
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Holy crap that's a lot. Ok, step by step.

1. No way to know every single wheel they will fit, that's why I included the schematic. It is IMPOSSIBLE to account for every wheel out there, just can't do it. Yes, you will need spacer the wheels you have I assume are the ones in the picture and any caliper that sticks out further than the face of the rotor will need spacer. Those wheels have no room for big calipers, stock GM C5Z or C6Z wheels have lots of room for calipers like that.

2. SL6's are slimline calipers and actually do take up less space. And the kit is a great kit. I also carry that among others. But the kit costs more, the rotors cost more, etc. So it just depends on what you have for wheels how cost effective it is.

3. I absolutely do NOT recommend the 4 piston rear. The car has no need for a lot more rear brake. But more critically, the way the c-clip axles work you get pad knockback and a long pedal if you are tossing the car around. See also why the S197 Mustang that had Brembo fronts didn't use them in the rear. Doesn't work.

Any of the kits designed to work on the car will work independently or together with the stock master. They are sized around the master, and the piston area being used on the aftermarket stuff.
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It's awesome that someone finally made this. I loved the CTS-V Brembos on my 4th gen but you made great points about why these are better. If I still had a 4th gen I'd be buying these for sure.
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Thanks, Sam!

I have a Moser 12-bolt with bolt-in axles. So I've eliminated the c-clip. Otherwise, I wouldn't even think about it.
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Will this work with the LG motorsports brackets?

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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
Well it uses a bracket like that, you have to grind on the upright a little. But how does it compare? Favorably because it gets you away from the crappy two piston sliding caliper. Just because it says Corvette on them doesn't make them very good, they have 95% the same issues as the F-body calipers. They **** and taper wear pads, the pads are more expensive, and in the end they just aren't as efficient at applying force to the pads, and can't do it evenly (which is why the pads taper wear).
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The Bob Bishop trackbrackets I have required removal of one of the OEM spindle ears for mounting. I'm trying to determine whether this new kit will mount to my modified spindle, or if I'd need to find stock spindles again.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Thanks, Sam!

I have a Moser 12-bolt with bolt-in axles. So I've eliminated the c-clip. Otherwise, I wouldn't even think about it.
Ahh, fair enough. Then you'd be fine but it sounds like the 6 piston in front will better suit your needs if you can swing the price. And since you dumped the c-clips in the rear the 4 piston stuff will work, though I think it's a bit of overkill myself. Though it would certainly look a lot better.
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For those of you with C5 brackets already, we can modify the kit (lowering the price too) some because we don't need to put the brackets in it, you already have some and these calipers *should* work fine with those since they are bolting up C5 stuff already.
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Scenario: I order a kit without the brackets, and then it doesn't fit correctly due to a combination of my different bracket and existing spindle modifications. Would my only recourse be to buy the matching brackets and/or stock spindles? Would there be a return policy in this scenario if I chose to stick with what I already had in lieu of buying more parts?
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How much have you molested your spindle?!?

From the take of it, I'm going to guess that it'll work with your brackets, assuming your brackets are for a C5 setup. I'm taking it that the same spindle modification you did to accept the C5 bracket, is the same modification you do to accept these brakets. I'm talking about the braket that gets sandwiched between the four hub bolts and the hub itself.

If I'm completely wrong I'll label myself as an imbecile and slink slowly away...
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Same info as posted above, only had to grind off one ear on the spindle. I just want clear expectations if there were unforeseen fitment problems.
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If the calipers go on the car I can't really return them. Also knowing that a lot of brackets are similar, I can't say they are all alike so I can't make any guarantees about fitment in that case.
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Originally Posted by vatechguy3
Will this work with the LG motorsports brackets?

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I'm wondering the same thing...
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*should* if they use C5 calipers on C5 rotors. But I am not going to tell you absolutely for sure yes. I know they had made brackets that moved the F-body caliper out for a C5 rotor and that won't work.
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Damn now I have something else to buy over the winter. Last passes I made this year at the drag stip I almost hit the sand at the end. Stock sytle brakes with the cheap ebay cross drilled rotors and hawks pads. They just suck when you try and stop from 140mph.

I have the standard s&s hoses for a stock 4th gen brake system. Would those work and if so what would that save me on the kit?
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Without lines saves about $60. But you have to call and talk to me to order it that way.
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Sam this kit ABSOLUTELY requires at least the OEM style 17" wheels, correct??

(OEM 16" wheels are a NO GO, right?)
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No way, not with the rotor size and the caliper increase. 16" isn't something that will work, no.
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Dammit Sam, I'm trying to save money NOT spend it! Just built a house and huge workshop but next fall I'm in for a set along w/ a Watts Link. I've got the old Baer Track PBR 2 piston setup, will that bracket work or will I need the bracket provided?


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