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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 07:10 AM
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That still isn't enough grip to have the car flexing...
How is it that there are national title winning SCCA 4th gens running no chassis stiffening mods at all? If it gave that much of a difference all the quickest cars would be running SFCs.
Same day, same track?
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I appreciate your opinion sir, but Ill stick with the proven results of making my car faster and you can stick to yours. I agree with you in the importance of springs and shocks and I do plan on getting them just as soon as I can, but as I stated before, My car is in alot more different races then just AUTO-X thus the need to SFCs and cage are necessary to keep well rounded performance.
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 09:28 AM
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I appreciate your opinion sir, but Ill stick with the proven results of making my car faster and you can stick to yours. I agree with you in the importance of springs and shocks and I do plan on getting them just as soon as I can, but as I stated before, My car is in alot more different races then just AUTO-X thus the need to SFCs and cage are necessary to keep well rounded performance.
The problem here is that you asked for advice from the forum, lots of us have fast f-bodies and have spent a lot of time doing our own research. At the end of the day it's your car, do what you want. I do however seriously doubt that your stock suspension is as fast as it could be or capable of a 180mph+ pull.
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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The problem here is that you asked for advice from the forum, lots of us have fast f-bodies and have spent a lot of time doing our own research. At the end of the day it's your car, do what you want. I do however seriously doubt that your stock suspension is as fast as it could be or capable of a 180mph+ pull.
No sir, Ive taken the advice of most that have responded to this thread, they all agreed that springs and shocks would be more beneficial so thats what I said I would go for first, and then later I would get the sway bars. I simply disagreed with the gentleman whom claimed that SFCs slowed you down in AUTO-X, considering I shaved time from my current runs with a tubular 2 point set, they didnt weigh much at all so I know they didnt weigh my car down as he was saying, especially since Ive dont about as extensive of weight reduction as you can on a street car without sacrificing the interior completely. I never said my stock suspension was fast..hence why Im upgrading it all, and lastly as for my 180mph run, when this run was made I already had a few aerodynamic mods done to help stabilize the car at speed, like venting the front wheel-well's into a low pressure zone to alleviate the high pressure zone around the tires causing an uplift on the front end, also was running the Perrelli P zeros since they are Y+ rated with a stiff sidewall. Yes unless the previous owner has replaced them or upgraded the springs and shocks then they were and still are stock, not sure how that would limit me in a straightline pull to those speeds but regardless that run was made during a race with a friend of mine in his twin turbo 300ZX. Whether you want to believe it or not is up too you, I honestly couldnt care any less if you do, but as I said before I appreciate all that has responded and I am taking their advice on the springs and shocks, just not HIS advice on removing my cage and SFC's since Ive already explained to him twice that the car is used for drag racing and other racing as well as street driving so they are needed in my case.
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 01:27 PM
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So you knew to ventilate your wheel wells to make a low pressure zone to keep you stable at speed, but you didn't know that shocks and springs would make your car handle better than sways with 15 year old shocks?
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blackandgold
So you knew to ventilate your wheel wells to make a low pressure zone to keep you stable at speed, but you didn't know that shocks and springs would make your car handle better than sways with 15 year old shocks?
...Yes, listen, there are a few things about cars and racing I know, and there are a TON of things I dont know..thats why I ask questions, Ive never claimed to be a pro, only an enthusiast , regardless of how dumb or ignorant they may seem Ill continue asking questions until Im satisfied with what I know about cars and racing. I apologize my ignorance in the area of suspension is bothersome to you, but I have now been further educated in this area, so you can rest easy now
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Project_Reaper
I appreciate your opinion sir, but Ill stick with the proven results of making my car faster and you can stick to yours. I agree with you in the importance of springs and shocks and I do plan on getting them just as soon as I can, but as I stated before, My car is in alot more different races then just AUTO-X thus the need to SFCs and cage are necessary to keep well rounded performance.
We can agree to disagree, we have both gotten different results.
Is your car a convertable?
I completely understand that you are building the car for more than just auto-x and I agree that a cage is a good idea, especially if you are doing high speed runs.
I appreciate all that has responded and I am taking their advice on the springs and shocks, just not HIS advice on removing my cage and SFC's since Ive already explained to him twice that the car is used for drag racing and other racing as well as street driving so they are needed in my case.
I never actually said you should remove them, just that if you invested the money into shocks instead of the above mods that you would be quicker than what you are now with stock suspension and the cage/SFCs as the shocks will make a substantial difference compared to the other mods. Again I understand that you do more than auto-x, but in the case of auto-x it would be quicker that way.

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...Yes, listen, there are a few things about cars and racing I know, and there are a TON of things I dont know..thats why I ask questions, Ive never claimed to be a pro, only an enthusiast , regardless of how dumb or ignorant they may seem Ill continue asking questions until Im satisfied with what I know about cars and racing. I apologize my ignorance in the area of suspension is bothersome to you, but I have now been further educated in this area, so you can rest easy now
That is what these forums are for, ask away and don't get discouraged and don't take what we say the wrong way, we are trying to help even if we come off harsh (sorry).
Just make sure now that you don't cheap out on shocks and springs as that will make or break the setup, get something good (like the custom UMI/strano Afco coilovers or Koni sports with good lowering springs). If you really are building this car to be a beast it would be silly IMO to get a cheaper (less performing) set of shocks/springs when you have so much money already invested, and the shocks/springs will make more difference in handling than anything you have done so far.
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Old Dec 6, 2016 | 07:11 AM
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Roger that, Nope its a T-top car but b4 the SFC's the dash would squeak, t-tops would pop and the inside front tire always felt like it was lifting a little. No worries about me going cheap, I just about go overkill on everything I do to this car, for instance the drivetrain is capable of 1200 HP, it'll most likely never be past 800HP, but ill never have to worry about it, also thats the reason I only have done whats been done so far is bc I dont go cheap...I always remember the old saying CHEAP-FAST-RELIABLE ...pick 2! Ive been talking to Sam about those Stanos, Ive heard alot about his combo setup and Im really diggin it. I think Im set in the correct path now for suspension mods in the near future, I appreciate your guys time very much, Ill post some vids at the end of next summer from the LSFEST grand champion races, I know I wont win but man its gonna be fun!!

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