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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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I'm about to buy some LCA relocation brackets to have put on along with the mini-tub kit and roll bar. Is there any benefit to one over another?

Currently, I am planning to get Spohn.
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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I really don't think there will be much of a difference between brands. I'm a little partial to Midwest Chassis and UMI though. Both offer the weld in variety. Good luck.
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 09:55 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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We offer two different one depending on what rearend you have.

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UMI has three possible mount locations for the LCA. Spohn, BMR, and Midwest have two. I assume there is a traction advantage to the lower LCA mount on the UMI bracket? Would the three holes make that bracket weaker than the other three?
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
UMI has three possible mount locations for the LCA. Spohn, BMR, and Midwest have two. I assume there is a traction advantage to the lower LCA mount on the UMI bracket? Would the three holes make that bracket weaker than the other three?
The holes are relative to the ride height of your car the lower you car is the lower you would want it to be on the bracket you always want your control arm to run up hill towards the body.
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 01:01 PM
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There isn't much difference between relocation brackets. Ours are 100% made in the USA using USA steel. Best part is they are only $47.25.

https://www.foundersperformance.com/...tion-brackets/
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
UMI has three possible mount locations for the LCA. Spohn, BMR, and Midwest have two. I assume there is a traction advantage to the lower LCA mount on the UMI bracket? Would the three holes make that bracket weaker than the other three?
There is more to look at than just the amount of holes. For the instance more holes does not always mean it is a better product. The chances of even getting to the point of using our lowest available hole is very rare but like Midwest Chassis mentioned it is all relevant to ride height. Relocation brackets get to long because of multiple holes added they become a risk if you ever get a flat because they become the lowest point of contact.

Things you need to look into when purchasing this particular item. Does the vendor have a back ground in using the parts they manufacturer? When a manufacturer utilizes the parts they sell the customer in return will get a better parts with hours upon hours of testing. Not to mention does the sales staff have an understanding how to help its customer in set up because they themselves are using the same products.

Now to relocation brackets themselves. We prefer weld on only because it is one less thing to worry about coming loose. Bolted on LCA relocation brackets turn into a maintenance item. Which it is good you are asking about weld on versions.

Now this goes back to the vendor having an understanding of the product they are selling. If hole locations in the LCA relocation brackets are not in the proper locations it means more preparation needs to take place in relocating your lower control arms to a different hole. Secondly you will notice we are the only company that ask what type of rear end these are being attached to. There is a reason we ask this.

Lastly it falls back to what company can help you using these items once you are out testing. Anyone can sell an item to a customer but can they help with tech advice long after your purchase. There is a lot of vendors out there selling product but very few who understand or even care to understand what they are selling. We enjoy and encourage all of our customers to contact us with any set up help they may need before, during, and after installation of all our products.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
UMI has three possible mount locations for the LCA. Spohn, BMR, and Midwest have two. I assume there is a traction advantage to the lower LCA mount on the UMI bracket? Would the three holes make that bracket weaker than the other three?
Not weaker, strength is no issue on these.

3 holes means more ability to tune. We like the adjustment and the more adjustment we can have the more we like it. We just like having a little more to work with.

I hope that helps,
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Would the lower holes equate to more traction? I think I read somewhere on here that the traction increases with lowering the LCA mounting location.
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Lol at everyone scrambling to sell this guy a set of relo's. Hard to beat any of these guy's stuff OP.

BTW - You're making 405 to the wheels with everything being stock? Even the water pump!?!?!
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Lol at everyone scrambling to sell this guy a set of relo's. Hard to beat any of these guy's stuff OP.

BTW - You're making 405 to the wheels with everything being stock? Even the water pump!?!?!
Shortblock, heads, and water pump are stock. Everything else is aftermarket. Probably a little under now that I have a Dana 60. Going to the dyno Saturday to get my tune straightened out.
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
Would the lower holes equate to more traction? I think I read somewhere on here that the traction increases with lowering the LCA mounting location.
Going to low can have the same or worst effect of having it in the stock hole if the stock hole is not working for you. Like I mentioning above lower does not mean better traction.
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWs6
Lol at everyone scrambling to sell this guy a set of relo's. Hard to beat any of these guy's stuff OP.
The vendors pay a lot to be on here and I mean a lot especially if you consider the lack of activity it has today. Without any of us scrambling to get a sale on here every now and then it hardly doesn't make it worth being on here to only give out free advice. That does not cover the bills but most vendors are still here knowing they are paying to give advice over getting sales. Everyone knows social media is a vendors biggest draw for customers today.

However we like being here to give advice which is why our PM box is always full with people wanting to ask questions privately so it does not turn into a off beat discussion of opinions.

Which is a shame because it is truly the only site you can fall back on for advice and knowledgeable advice especially from vendors that have been modifying/building these vehicle for well over ten years and discussing this platform with customers as well accumulating years of data.

With that said we are always happy to give advice on here over trying to catch every sale, people have questions they can always give us a PM, Email, or a Call. We do not make a commission here as sales people thus why not every conversation we have with customers is a sales pitch while communicating.
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 09:10 AM
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Not knocking anyone. Just thought it was funny.

As far as lack of activity, has it really gotten bad? I suppose the site would need to attract people with newer cars to get busier - 4th gen f-bodies rule here and they are ooooold.

I don't get social media as a replacement for a forum. I've heard that is the case recently so I joined a few groups on FB, but they are really annoying. If you just want to cruise through some pics of stuff you're into, great. But trying to get any real information? I don't get it. FB groups just seem noisy and solid, real content-less.
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Colorado Speed had a sale on the UMI ones. I bought those.
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I've been running the BMR bolt-ins for about 15 years,too difficult to 'un-mod' the weld-ins. And there used to be threads of weld-ins positions screwed up because of improper positioning during welding.
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Is there any reason you can't weld / tack the bolt-in style ones after you've got them in position? That was my plan - bolt them up with some Loctite at first, and then once I'm happy with the position throw some tacks on them to keep them in place.
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Yes the bolt-ins can be tacked in. The 'ears' on the bolt-ins that locate to the large shock mount bolt determines the position. Then they can be tacked at the same locations that the weld-ins are tacked at. Bolt-ins and weld-ins are the same except for the shock 'ear'.
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