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Old May 6, 2018 | 11:54 PM
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Since I can remember my column moves down and to the left when you push down on the steering wheel. Since I have been Autocrossing this car, that is very annoying. So last year when I installed a wheel I decided to do something about it. I replaced the LH pin with an oversize pin. This helped dramatically, but when you push down hard on the wheel it would still move. Seems I do this when I am AutoX driving and it is really distracting. The fix would be to replace the AL carrier which is no longer available, therefore it is very pricey to locate one in good condition or NOS. It also means complete teardown of the column.

This is what I did. I pulled the tilt pin out of the LH side again. This is not very difficult. Just remove the tilt handle by unscrewing it. Then pop off one plastic cover, it pushes towards the front of the car. Then pop of another cover, you have to squeeze this and pull forward in car. The pin is removed by threading a machine screw into it and prying it out, I did the prying with a small hammer. Once the pin was out (oversize pin by the way) I cleaned it. My column had a quite a bit of grease and oil in the bores for the pin. If it did not I was going to put grease in the bores. I put JB weld on the pin. All over the pin. Pounded the pin back in and waited a day. The JB weld set up and the lubricants on the column bore kept it from sticking, so the tilt still works. I doubt it is possible to get the pin out now.

I would not endorse this method, but it worked for me, and I'm just sharing for those frustrated with not solution. I was prepared for having it not work and ruining the column and/or not having the tilt function. My column now is rock solid. I did nothing with the RH pin.
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Old May 7, 2018 | 08:01 AM
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Cool, thanks!
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Old May 7, 2018 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 00PewterSS
Since I can remember my column moves down and to the left when you push down on the steering wheel. Since I have been Autocrossing this car, that is very annoying. So last year when I installed a wheel I decided to do something about it. I replaced the LH pin with an oversize pin. This helped dramatically, but when you push down hard on the wheel it would still move. Seems I do this when I am AutoX driving and it is really distracting. The fix would be to replace the AL carrier which is no longer available, therefore it is very pricey to locate one in good condition or NOS. It also means complete teardown of the column.

This is what I did. I pulled the tilt pin out of the LH side again. This is not very difficult. Just remove the tilt handle by unscrewing it. Then pop off one plastic cover, it pushes towards the front of the car. Then pop of another cover, you have to squeeze this and pull forward in car. The pin is removed by threading a machine screw into it and prying it out, I did the prying with a small hammer. Once the pin was out (oversize pin by the way) I cleaned it. My column had a quite a bit of grease and oil in the bores for the pin. If it did not I was going to put grease in the bores. I put JB weld on the pin. All over the pin. Pounded the pin back in and waited a day. The JB weld set up and the lubricants on the column bore kept it from sticking, so the tilt still works. I doubt it is possible to get the pin out now.

I would not endorse this method, but it worked for me, and I'm just sharing for those frustrated with not solution. I was prepared for having it not work and ruining the column and/or not having the tilt function. My column now is rock solid. I did nothing with the RH pin.
I did the same thing about 5 years ago, it eventually worked loose again but its not as bad. Was thinking about pulling it apart and putting more JB in the hole.
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Old May 7, 2018 | 07:06 PM
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This is on my to do list... I remember seeing a guy with i think a third gen use a large hose clamp to wrap around the steering column and hold that tilt pin in from coming out.


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This is what I did. I pulled the tilt pin out of the LH side again. This is not very difficult. Just remove the tilt handle by unscrewing it. Then pop off one plastic cover, it pushes towards the front of the car. Then pop of another cover, you have to squeeze this and pull forward in car. The pin is removed by threading a machine screw into it and prying it out, I did the prying with a small hammer. Once the pin was out (oversize pin by the way) I cleaned it. My column had a quite a bit of grease and oil in the bores for the pin. If it did not I was going to put grease in the bores. I put JB weld on the pin. All over the pin. Pounded the pin back in and waited a day. The JB weld set up and the lubricants on the column bore kept it from sticking, so the tilt still works. I doubt it is possible to get the pin out now.
Did you have to remove the steering wheel for this?
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Old May 7, 2018 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Did you have to remove the steering wheel for this?
No just the tilt lever, and two plastic covers. It takes only a couple of minutes after you know what to do... meaning done it once or twice.
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What is the JB Weld fortifying in this solution? Is it capturing the enlarged pin by making it too fat to back out? Or is it sticking to the aluminum carrier, rebuilding the round hole that once existed from the factory?

I put the enlarged pin on my car, and it felt okay for a bit, but now has the same 7 O'clock wobble, if a bit less pronounced.
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What is the JB Weld fortifying in this solution? Is it capturing the enlarged pin by making it too fat to back out? Or is it sticking to the aluminum carrier, rebuilding the round hole that once existed from the factory?

I put the enlarged pin on my car, and it felt okay for a bit, but now has the same 7 O'clock wobble, if a bit less pronounced.
When I took it apart I could see the pin moving. So I wonder if the wobble we are both experiencing is actually the pin moving in the housing? Regardless, it is doing two things... It is filling the gap between the pin and the housing and the carrier. Of course the pin normally would have an interference so the JB weld can't do that. It also is keeping it from backing out. I can't tell exactly what it is doing because I can't see inside the column, but I sure hope it works for a while, because the column feels great right now.
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Originally Posted by 00PewterSS
Since I can remember my column moves down and to the left when you push down on the steering wheel. Since I have been Autocrossing this car, that is very annoying. So last year when I installed a wheel I decided to do something about it. I replaced the LH pin with an oversize pin. This helped dramatically, but when you push down hard on the wheel it would still move. Seems I do this when I am AutoX driving and it is really distracting. The fix would be to replace the AL carrier which is no longer available, therefore it is very pricey to locate one in good condition or NOS. It also means complete teardown of the column.

This is what I did. I pulled the tilt pin out of the LH side again. This is not very difficult. Just remove the tilt handle by unscrewing it. Then pop off one plastic cover, it pushes towards the front of the car. Then pop of another cover, you have to squeeze this and pull forward in car. The pin is removed by threading a machine screw into it and prying it out, I did the prying with a small hammer. Once the pin was out (oversize pin by the way) I cleaned it. My column had a quite a bit of grease and oil in the bores for the pin. If it did not I was going to put grease in the bores. I put JB weld on the pin. All over the pin. Pounded the pin back in and waited a day. The JB weld set up and the lubricants on the column bore kept it from sticking, so the tilt still works. I doubt it is possible to get the pin out now.

I would not endorse this method, but it worked for me, and I'm just sharing for those frustrated with not solution. I was prepared for having it not work and ruining the column and/or not having the tilt function. My column now is rock solid. I did nothing with the RH pin.
Does it still have no play?
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Yes, it still has zero play. I really hope you didn't jinx me I have been AutoX this car all year and I notice I do pull on the wheel pretty good. And getting in and out I have found myself pulling on it as well.
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After I did mine I made it a conscious effort every time getting in and out of the car to NOT touch the wheel any more, always pull myself or my seat via the A pillar or door handle. I remind every service guy that works on the car to not pull on the wheel. After ~4 years its still OK for me. Not a DD, just nice day and AX only driving. I also have a race seat which I think also helps me not have to use the steering wheel itself as leverage to keep my butt in the seat.
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My car is specifically setup for Autocross. Stock the car is mildly awful for track or autocross by today's standards. My car is a stick as are most that autocross, an auto is fine if your gearing is correct for the speeds. SCCA is where to start looking for local groups running Autocross. I believe most groups use motorsportsreg.com so you could go there and search as well.
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