My BMR stuff has worked great for me. Over 30,000 miles and hundreds of track passes without issue.

 

mitch, that's interesting, I deleted one of my posts from this thread also. I figure, why risk getting flamed and starting a war just to help somebody else? After doing that a few times you get tired of it. People just need to do their own research before they buy. Yet when you've been there and learned the hard way, you want to help others.

Anyway, there will always be people saying "BMR stuff worked great for me" and sometimes it does, but then you hear of some one breaking a part that wasn't even racing. So if you are racing, you sure as heck better use the best parts money can buy, which usually aren't that much more expensive, you just have to know about them (back to doing the research up front.)

As for the idea that "non-adjustable BMR parts are ok" I say if that's all you want, just throw some poly bushings and or reinforcement on the stock parts and use them, they aren't that bad and are even better than some BMR parts. Plus, you have saved a butt-load of money.

 

thanks guys, youve changed my mind, ill be going with UMI

 

LOL ... I just did it again.

I had a long response typed out and was reading over it.

Decided the benefit of a few wasn't worth the ire of the many.
Let everyone spend thousands of dallars doing R&D like I did ....

 

ohhiitnik,

You will not be disappointed in your purchase. We guarantee all of our products performance, quality and satisfaction a 100%....I am not sure what else I can say. Thanks again for your business!

Regards,
Ryan

 

I just want to say that I don't think that BMR parts are the holy grail of suspension stuff or anything like that, just that my experience, and the way I drive (I mostly baby my car, but get on it once in a while on the street), they've worked-out okay for me so far. The guys here that have really pushed their cars really know the limitations of BMR stuff. And I believe that you get what you pay for most of the time. For me, the BMR stuff has represented good value and performance for my application. Some folks just don't need the extra performance and durability of more expensive components, and since I'm so happy with BMR, obviously I don't.

As an example, I recently did a brake job on my '02 Dakota. This is my grocery getter and every day ride. As I shopped for rotors, there were quite a few options. I could have gotten cross-drilled and slotted rotors for about $150 a piece, or Bendix rotors (solid) for about $50 a piece, or an even cheaper rotor, Everlast I think, for about $30 a piece. The only difference between the Bendix and the $30 rotor was the finish. Same steel, same everything. I went for the $30 rotors because I was a little short on funds, and they've worked-out great, better than I ever imagined, but if I was using my truck to tow a trailer, or haul heavy loads, I don't think that would have been the best choice.

When you ask a question about a certain brand of parts, you're going to get folks responding that have very different needs, and they will recommend the stuff that fits their needs. For one person, BMR might not be precise or durable enough to get the job done, for another, they're the perfect choice. None of the responses and recommendations are incorrect, just a cross section of varying requirements and experiences. I know if I was autoxing like some folks here, I don't think BMR would be on the top of my list.

I just wanted to point out that I don't think that someone is wrong for saying that BMR sucked for them, or another guy saying they are more than happy with their choice. They're both right.

 

where did you find this kit for 700 bucks? i cant find anything on their website about it...TIA

 

That was an insightful, respectful and thought provoking post.

Thanks for that ...

 

I had thought just that as well....

 

Thanks fellas!

I was actually thinking about you guys when I wrote it. I know it's not anything you don't already know, and I know you guys know your stuff.

 

Nah...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night......

 

 

It's not necessarily what I know, but what I've learned through experience.

I guess the problem I encounter is when someone asks "what is the best setup for handling" and everyone gives their opinion ... sometimes based upon experience.

I have said numerous time that I don't know what a good handling car feels like because I'm not sure I've ever driven one.

How can I proclaim what makes a car "good handling" if I've never compared it to anything else?

I can run with Z06s and have passed my share of M3s and 911s. BUt does that mean my car is the best it can be? Is it "handling"? I dunno ...

All any of us can do is share our experiences ... share what has worked better and what has failed miserably. I thought that was what places like this were all about ... gathering information ...

But it appears to have become more of a defense zone ... people defending what they have spent their hard-earned money on. Well trust me on this ... I've wasted my share of cash on crap parts over the years.

But I'll be damned if I'm gonna get flamed time after time for voicing an opinion and subsequently taken to task. It's not worth my time.

So, why not allow others to spend away, searching for "handling"?
Spend your cash-ola ... learn for yourself ... the vendors love it!

 

Well said mitch . . . I think that's about the point I'm to as well.

 

Me 3..... But I'm still hard headed enough to speak up on occasion.

 

I just went through this exact topic with Frank at BMR when I ordered my parts. I ordered their "Race" control arms and panhard rod and he said that they use QAI's XM series rod ends in all of their products. The XM series is the highest strength rod ends available with Teflon inserts. This picture of their "Race" control arms is from their website:
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/contro...Adjustable.jpg. They also use stainless spacers instead of aluminum or steel which is one of the reasons I went with them.

 

You can thank those of us who bitched, moaned, complained and broke those parts for making them (or any vendor) raise the bar on quality. I'm glad they offer that avenue for folks.

Of course, if we had said nothing, ever, then let's all speculate how high the bar would be.

Curious ... I bet those aren't any cheaper than any of the other premium parts out there ...

 

i checked the prices on

Spohn mild steel $245.00
chrome moly $275.00

Bmr chrome moly $219.95


Lg motorsport mild steel $199.00 (didn't find listing for chrome moly)

I was already interested in buying a extreme torque arm from them and figured that dealing with one manufacturer would make things easier

 

Well said and exactly the way it SHOULD be. Unfortunately whenever money or emotions get involved it all seems to go to hell. Its a shame too because this is much of the reason that tons of experience and knowledge often sits on the sidelines.

 

Yup. It's about time. I'm glad to be able to feel like we (collectively) were heard and a change was made.

Now, if we can just get rid of that damn PHB and LCA's with the adjuster in the center and poly on both ends.....

Next victim?